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I would NOT trust them with my welfare...................
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Have the powers that be gone down the route of de-militarising all 2nd line aircraft servicing and trade training yet?
just like HR, these are non-deployable roles that can be done at a fraction of the cost by civilians/ex-blue suits.
just like HR, these are non-deployable roles that can be done at a fraction of the cost by civilians/ex-blue suits.
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Damn right - in the big bad world outside the military bubble, welfare is either the responsibility of the Line Manager, or the employer doesnt give two shits about what is going on in your private life and dont dare bring it to the workplace.
unruly1986
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Info here
www.raf.mod.uk
Strategic Support Programme set to revolutionise Military HR Services | Royal Air Force
The RAF’s Strategic Support Programme (SSP) passed a significant milestone on 7 December, with the RAF Board approving a new model for delivering HR Services to military personnel.
www.raf.mod.uk
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yeah thats fine as long as we never go to war with anyone not armed with more than an AK. there is no slack to fall back on if TSHTF
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Correct;
As an example; GW1 - all the operational RW force headed east with all the extra bods they could find to cover a massive increase in flying (hours and wearing conditions), leaving diddly squat to do anything in UK & RAFG..... except for all the civvy RW engineers at Shawbury with reduced flying commitments covered by normal levels of manning.
See my earlier comment about needing spare deployable capacity in the system both for any immediate surge and any roulement required as things drag on. The question is not primarily " what can be done in the home base by civilians and contractors?" but "what resources will be required to deploy next time (and there will be a next time) and how do we train, maintain & use those resources whilst not deployed?".
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There won’t be any money or appetite left for another Herrick scale deployment.
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As long as the "working remotely" remote part of it doesn't extend a few thousand miles away to India.
If it can be done from home by a Corporal clerk it can be done at half the cost very remotely !!
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How many times has that statement been proven wrong?
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You might have noticed that a lot of companies have been able to onshore a lot of customer service now that people are more comfortable doing a lot of the boring stuff themselves.
The call centres in India and other cheaper areas tended to do the more mandrolic stuff, now this has gone, overseas costs have gone up and quality and security have become priorities the difference has become negligible.
The competition now is in other lower cost but more educated countries such as eastern and Central Europe, one of the downsides of everyone else speaking English.
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Several!!
Along with "The Lightning (English Electric of blessed memory) will be the last manned fighter because missiles will take over - shortly before the Phantom was bought....
.Then there would never be another single seat fighter (too much for one pilot to do - hence Phantom & Tornado) - we now have Typhoon...
We would never need to deploy long haul/heavy lift - got rid of the capability before we had to rethink and progressively bought a C17 fleet.
A lot of the posts have yes....
And it's slightly disingenuous to say they are non deployable because those individuals do the OOAs as IAs to the FIs, VASS at Bastion (then), Minhad, Eng Ops deployed, etc...
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Hercules to be removed from service (allegedly)
www.dailymail.co.uk
"Tobias Ellwood MP, chairman of the Commons defence committee, said he had written to Defence Secretary Ben Wallace to express his ‘grave concerns’ about the move. He said: ‘Grounding the C-130J will endanger our troops and threaten the success of operations they are undertaking overseas. Scrapping this aircraft, 14 years ahead of its retirement date, would be a serious strategic error and will land poorly with Nato allies "
Death of Hercules: Fleet of planes favoured by SAS is to be grounded
The entire fleet of the transporter plane favoured by the SAS is to be grounded - despite fears the cost-cutting move will put soldiers' lives at risk.
"Tobias Ellwood MP, chairman of the Commons defence committee, said he had written to Defence Secretary Ben Wallace to express his ‘grave concerns’ about the move. He said: ‘Grounding the C-130J will endanger our troops and threaten the success of operations they are undertaking overseas. Scrapping this aircraft, 14 years ahead of its retirement date, would be a serious strategic error and will land poorly with Nato allies "
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I was expecting the E3Ds to be first onto the scrapheap.
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They're probably still worth a few bob.
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I think if the WedgeTail was going well programme timescale wise, the decision for the E-3D Sentry would be made, with the view to accepting a 'capability gap...'
There's a first eh?
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Engines, undercarriages and instruments may be worth a little as military spares - but they cant be placed in the civil market and whoever wins the bid the scrap them may want the whole things to get the worth out of them...and mash them up into containers on-site.
they are now
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The contract to scrap them is now out...to be carried out at Waddington. There'll probably be a lot of spanner monkey work for those in that locale with whomever wins it. Also Sentinel as well.
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You wonder will we actually have anything left to deploy with if there is a next time (and I'm sure there will, just when).