PVR Rates

[Keyser Söze]

If I recall a lot of heavies who were either too lazy or didn't know how to use a STRAT, also liked to twist things to their benefit too.

Maybe if a few of them had fault finding skills that went beyond 'look there's a leak there' inter trade relationships might have been better.

This T Card reliant specialist wasn't aware that needlessly changing CSAS computers because they're easier was a valid fault finding technique either.

But back onto point the prevalent Manufacturer led myth that the BITE will tell all has been disproven over several generations of aircraft now. As systems become more and more integrated the chances of an unrelated system causing a cascade failure increases and no amount of bite button pressing will highlight this.

No matter what the BAE sales people will tell you, the fact that the MOD hierarchy believe these muppets has led to situations were the correct documentation or test equipment hasn't been procured, further leaving the service reliant on industry and causing frustration to the guys trying to do their jobs.

Currently there still are guys who have received sufficient training to be able to counteract this oversight, fast forward a decade or so however and I'm not sure the level of training the guys get now will suffice, especially if their isn't a cadre of guys with relevant 2nd line or depth experience to draw upon.

And who wins if this is indeed the case? Yup BAE who the RAF won't be able to operate without regardless of the cost to the taxpayer.

Spot on Ghandi! I recall a uni' course in the 90's where a Design Engineer (a guest speaker) from Airbus was waxing lyrical about 100% accurate BITE. I told him that I'd heard this before and it was BS then just as it is/was now. He continued that I was wrong and what did I know anyway. Roll forward 15 years where I was embedded within industry, I was chatting to the chief design engineer of a large uk defence firm, he admitted that one of their USA bidding competitors had announced to the MoD of their 100% accurate BITE, something that gave them a slight edge over my mates company,,, he admitted that they later 'fluffed up' their capability so that they ALSO had a totally accurate automated diagnostics system,,,, (they had nt) but they won the contract as a result. This guy later admitted that since there is no such thing as an accurate BITE system it was the MoDs fault for believing this BS in the first place.

Meanwhile of course the RAF have altered their whole engineering strategy on a whim to save money and not train personnel to the req'd level.

 

[ron98]

pvr'ed ekkk

pvr'ed ekkk

Hi all I have just got a written job offer to work on a Rig, My WO on the SQN will gap the post for the 6 months as a A tech M CPL do you think I will be able to start in 6 weeks will the RAF let me go?

 

[miniboo]

If you have a written job offer it should be easy to go that quick.

I know of a couple of guys at my unit that have gone within a week

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[Stevienics]

....and good luck, Ron.

 

[ron98]

Thank you,

taking it to PSF Monday not slept since Friday night its such a good job and gives me so much time at home with the little one. I hope that no one try's to stop me this will change my life spent 14 years driving home every weekend to turn round and drive back 2 days later very tired now! The Little lads changed it all.

Worked out that I have had on average had about 90 days a year in my own house with Afgan / dets and working weekends. Do you lads know any one that has ever been stopped? with a job offer and Sqn saying they would run light?

I would brake big time getting this close to finding a job like this. I wount to look after my little lad and wife and not to feel owned any more.

 

[muttywhitedog]

Make sure you choose your exit day carefully. Ensure you get in all your leave entitlement and resettlement, and make sure your exit day is a Monday.

Although you technically cant earn whilst on resettlement (this is a RAF rule, not a HMRC rule by the way - in civvy st, you can work for as many companies as you like, as long as you only claim one tax allowance), you could always work for free, or with a deferrment of the wage until you are only working for them....

Good Luck!

 

[ron98]

thanks mate!

do you know any one ever getting stopped from leaving early with a written offer and a gapped post?

 

[jaguardriver]

Make sure you choose your exit day carefully. Ensure you get in all your leave entitlement and resettlement, and make sure your exit day is a Monday.

Although you technically cant earn whilst on resettlement (this is a RAF rule, not a HMRC rule by the way - in civvy st, you can work for as many companies as you like, as long as you only claim one tax allowance), you could always work for free, or with a deferrment of the wage until you are only working for them....

Good Luck!

Making sure you get all your leave entitlement is good advice but the reality is that if you get a job offer then you may have to to forfeit some. The is exactly what has just happened to me, I've got a short notice job offer and I'd be a fool to turn it down so losing out on my resettlement leave is a small price to pay.

However, this rule on resettlement does have me slightly bewildered. If I work my resettlement leave I'll get an extra 7 weeks pay from the RAF and coupled with the wage from my new job will pay a huge amount of tax to the government so why would they be concerned? Surely they would encourage it! How would the RAF find out I was working and what action could they take - feel free to charge me but be quick as I'm in my last few months of service!

 

[ron98]

I will be happy to just walk away, What trade are you? did your post get gapped too?

 

[Rigga]

Make sure you choose your exit day carefully. Ensure you get in all your leave entitlement and resettlement, and make sure your exit day is a Monday.

Although you technically cant earn whilst on resettlement (this is a RAF rule, not a HMRC rule by the way - in civvy st, you can work for as many companies as you like, as long as you only claim one tax allowance), you could always work for free, or with a deferrment of the wage until you are only working for them....

Good Luck!

All really good advice - except that you can work for as many companies as you like as long as you declare them ALL to the tax man. Luckily, they don't mind how many hours you work, or for whom, or even how much money you make as long as you pay the right taxes.

 

[topstop]

Started a business in the April, with permission "As long as it didnt interfere with my duties and I wasnt operating on the Base", was watch keeping 2 weeks on 2 off, so it didnt. Left the Mob in September. Was warned about "Insurance tax and other implications"

 

[Soon To Leave]

thanks mate!

do you know any one ever getting stopped from leaving early with a written offer and a gapped post?

Any post that can run light is likely to be lost. We have had redundancies after all!

Is your section prepared to lose the post forever?

 

[enginesuck]

Just put in the paperwork and see, work out resettlement, leave and terminal leave allowances from the date you want to leave and apply for it, take resettlement leave first then annual followed by terminal. I worked from my first day of annual leave tagged on to my terminal leave which gave me around two months of double bubble ! If the job is PAYE you will get smashed for tax but will still be better off, im not taxed at sourced so have had to get an accountant to work out my tax liabilities, just means saving around half my pay ready for a big payment to HMRC in April, still its sat in a savings account earning some interest. You wont know when the PVR bubble will burst just stick the paperwork in and see.

 

[Harry B'Stard]

Ron98,

I got a job offer and they wanted me to start in 4 weeks time.

I had a word with my boss and they agreed to let me go early (I had the advantage that they'd let all the voluntary redundees go early... and I was a compulsory).

I went to PSF and spoke to our 'Terminations Clerk' who sorted all the paperwork.

As for leave, I had 5 weeks of Resettlement leave left, about 30 days annual and 20 days terminal.

I wrote off 1 week's worth of Resettlement, I started my annual leave on the same day as I started my new job and my terminal will start the day after my annual runs out.

I walked out of the building for the last time the day after the paperwork went in... apart from popping back a couple of weeks later for my leaving doo! DT_Xtremez_28:

Best of luck with it fella!

HTB

 

[ron98]

Find out in the new year, wow going to pap my paints all x mas now! All I wount is to be able to live at home realy would any one stop that?

 

[fat lazy techie]

You're probably not far wrong about the 33 Eng situation TB. I know of 5 from my old shift plus 3 GE's. Multiply that by the 6 shifts and 30 isn't a bad estimate. Throw in the guys who recently left time-ex, the soon to leave and the ones talking about PVR and it all adds up to very worrying times indeed. IMO the Sqn is on its knees and getting no backing from the powers that be.

I wouldn't say on it's knees, more on it's arse and sinking lower. The merge of both support flight shifts and then splitting into three teams is a monumental fluster cuck coupled to the idea of working 5 on 5 off with two shifts (bit like how FMT run) was disregarded straight away as some of the management didn't like it. Mind you that's not going to matter because support flight is going to get civilianized with MAe taking over the work. Ok it's not been confirmed by the SEngO but then it's not been denied either. The senior management need to step back and take a long hard look at the mess they've created then do the honourable thing, not going to hold my breath. The PVR rate is indeed pretty high.

 

[ady eflog]

http://www.dasa.mod.uk/applications...ate=2012-12-20&type=html&PublishTime=09:30:00

The latest PVR rates are out this morning with yet another increase for the Army and Navy but the RAF stayed the same at 3.9% with 36 790 trained strength we could easily be over run by Tesco.

 

[ron98]

PVR sorted, and I start my job on the rigs the very next day. 14 year done!!! this new job pays 4k a month so I will be sorting me own pension liz even though I have a signed contract I still can not beleive it. The firm seem to really wont to look after me money for this, paying for my travel, day rate for food! thats like a step back in time to Rates. Its a balls out move but is there any reason not to? this lot will give me the same time off after working away for two weeks as the lads on my Sqn will get for 4 mouths away.

I still think its all going to go wrong the job is TOOOOO good to be ture.

 

[Keyser Söze]

Good luck Ron. Plenty of my mates have left over the past few years, all are financially better off!

 

[Soon To Leave]

All the best Ron. Hope it works out well for you and the family.