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Helicopter crashes into Pub in Glasgow

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Pilot named as David Traill, ex RAF. RIP

Sorry my first post for a very long time is in such sad circumstances.
 
Fly to the angels
Do not land
God has taken hold your hand
Many flights you have made
Memories will never fade
Take to the skies a final time
Far above the clouds to climb
Do not stop
The skies deep blue
Keep on climbing
You must do
You’ve landed now
In heaven’s field
Your journey’s done
You’ve found such peace
On this sweet flight
Goodbye, God bless
Sleep tight.

Animo et fide
 
They call hovering at or below 500 ft as being in the dead zone, because if theres an engine failure theres not enough altitude or forward momentum to auto rotate out of trouble.
I was watching West Yorkshire`s finest doing just that last week.

Wonder if its an occupational hazard ?
 
Rocket_Ronster said:
They call hovering at or below 500 ft as being in the dead zone, because if theres an engine failure theres not enough altitude or forward momentum to auto rotate out of trouble.
I was watching West Yorkshire`s finest doing just that last week.

Wonder if its an occupational hazard ?
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A fuel pump failure or a plugged fuel line wouldn't show up as an engine problem would it? Of course I guess that would show up on the black box though as would electrical problems. I assume they also have cockpit voice recorders.
 
Gord said:
A fuel pump failure or a plugged fuel line wouldn't show up as an engine problem would it? Of course I guess that would show up on the black box though as would electrical problems. I assume they also have cockpit voice recorders.
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I believe that they are exempt from crash and voice recorders. Although that may now be under review.
 
John Lloyd said:
I believe that they are exempt from crash and voice recorders. Although that may now be under review.
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You'd think they would already have those installed after the number of incidents involving helicopters in recent years.
 
Rocket_Ronster said:
They call hovering at or below 500 ft as being in the dead zone, because if theres an engine failure theres not enough altitude or forward momentum to auto rotate out of trouble.
I was watching West Yorkshire`s finest doing just that last week.

Wonder if its an occupational hazard ?
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Puma pilots used to talk about decision height. The help, the more time to react.
 
News report says engines ok, gearbox, ok 95 litres of fuel drained from the tank but rotor and fenestron not turning. Curious.
 
FADEC failure would'nt stop rotors. If the FADECs shut down (both?) the engines...the pilot would (should) semi-automatically be trying to auto-rotate even if not high enough - so blades should have been turning at approx 300-400rpm - and they weren't. Blades must have stopped giving sufficient Lift approx 50-100ft above the Clutha's roof if not moving forward at that time...even Higher if it lost forward momentum after the fault was noticed.
 
"In an emergency situation, such as systems failure, the EC145 OPV is programmed to enter into an automated hover-to-land procedure to safely land the aircraft.[SUP][9]"

Interesting from Wiki[/SUP]
 
None of the EC145's I've worked on did that - and this was a EC135.
 
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