Brexit Voter - are you happy?

[busby1971]

Alas, there was no EU then. There was the EEC and one will find the Grimsby big boats were having their nets cut by Icelandic gun boats in 1973 as the North Sea was fished out. We had a car industry, an aviation industry a shipbuilding and manufacturing capacity from raw goods to finished articles. EEC didn't destroy that, Tory policy and their members as company management did.

The world is not that that simple, just as the Common Market and it’s subsequent Legal entities, wasn’t the cause of all that happened, it would have been a part of the process, equally it would have played a part in the successes over the years.

Whilst the Tory and Labour Governments, and some might say Mr Blair did more to accelerate our economy to a Service one, have both managed the changes to our economy during a period of rapid global economic change.

I’m currently responsible for the people aspects of creating a new factory in the North of England which is getting a lot of Levelling Up Funding, however, the EHS manager does like to mention Maggie when given, or even not given, the opportunity to all that listen. And whilst I disagree with his opinion on some aspects I think the bigger issue was the lack of replacement quality employment suitable for the local workforce, there’s nothing wrong working in a Logistics warehouse, it’s just not on the same level of what was lost.

 

[Past Engineering]

Just a minor point, my Son in Law's firm is based in the Midlands, but that should make no difference in the big scheme of things.

 

[Cat Techie]

The world is not that that simple, just as the Common Market and it’s subsequent Legal entities, wasn’t the cause of all that happened, it would have been a part of the process, equally it would have played a part in the successes over the years.

Whilst the Tory and Labour Governments, and some might say Mr Blair did more to accelerate our economy to a Service one, have both managed the changes to our economy during a period of rapid global economic change.

I’m currently responsible for the people aspects of creating a new factory in the North of England which is getting a lot of Levelling Up Funding, however, the EHS manager does like to mention Maggie when given, or even not given, the opportunity to all that listen. And whilst I disagree with his opinion on some aspects I think the bigger issue was the lack of replacement quality employment suitable for the local workforce, there’s nothing wrong working in a Logistics warehouse, it’s just not on the same level of what was lost.

The world is that simple. Economics to Thatcher was simple. Those that know history, geography and what balance of payments means without the figures being massaged. Not even mentioned anymore. Tony Blair was always more blue than red. Why he won. HM must have thought positive things about him as she personally knighted him to the highest level. Her choice. Oh that must hurt the Bliar brigade. Interesting program by Andrew Marr about Britains economics that was on BBC (and still on iPlayer) called the Elizabethans. His opinion on the downfall of our primary and secondary industries I agree with. Failure of British management, government and unions to adapt, invest and move with the times. Best comment was lack of specialists in fields in Government posts. I agree on that. Oh, you in a certain Freeport area? Watch Out , Ben's money can disappear as fast as it came. The corruption there is blindingly obvious.

 

[busby1971]

No free port for me, and the bill is definitely being sent down south.

Good to see that you agree that the country had major issues across the board, that it wasnt just the fault of one government but years and years of pent up poor performance, twinned with governments subsidising dying industries rather than invest in the future.

 

[Defenestration]

Changes have hit now and will stay hitting. Customs blockages and hold ups are real. You need to get out of your office or home more.

Can I just ask you about the customs blockages and hold ups you refer to? In my company I am responsible for both exports and imports into and out of Europe, and we experience no real issues with blockages and/or hold ups with our shipments, unless something has been done incorrectly at either end.

 

[Talk Wrench]

Can I just ask you about the customs blockages and hold ups you refer to? In my company I am responsible for both exports and imports into and out of Europe, and we experience no real issues with blockages and/or hold ups with our shipments, unless something has been done incorrectly at either end.

Just to add to that, with the currently embargoed Russian airlines, there is an increased focus by customs upon the flow of spares from various worldwide hubs to make sure that parts are effectively undeliverable to them.
Enhanced screening on aircraft spares coming into Europe has created backlogs for many airlines and MRO's and that most definitely has nothing to do with Brexit, but it will have some impact on the UK.

 

[Cat Techie]

Can I just ask you about the customs blockages and hold ups you refer to? In my company I am responsible for both exports and imports into and out of Europe, and we experience no real issues with blockages and/or hold ups with our shipments, unless something has been done incorrectly at either end.

We have had issues. It is the extra paperwork and red tape involved with leaving EASA on top. Been told of it from our stores people. AOG items have been held up. Talkwrench wouldn't see that.

 

[Cat Techie]

No free port for me, and the bill is definitely being sent down south.

Good to see that you agree that the country had major issues across the board, that it wasnt just the fault of one government but years and years of pent up poor performance, twinned with governments subsidising dying industries rather than invest in the future.

Industries not investing for the future. Private as well as the nationalised ones. But governments lead. Well should lead. Most of the damage done to our manufacturing industry was done by Maggie. Even Farage says the same.

 

[Talk Wrench]

Industries not investing for the future. Private as well as the nationalised ones. But governments lead. Well should lead. Most of the damage done to our manufacturing industry was done by Maggie. Even Farage says the same.

I'm surprised you've managed to write "Maggie"and "Farage" in the same post.

Must have stung like be-atch.

 

[Cat Techie]

I'm surprised you've managed to write "Maggie"and "Farage" in the same post.

Must have stung like be-atch.

No, I remember the toe rag saying it before the referendum on Maggie's failings. Farage is another hypocrite.

 

[Talk Wrench]

No, I remember the toe rag saying it before the referendum on Maggie's failings. Farage is another hypocrite.

Farage is on my list of people that I never want to have a beer with.

 

[Cat Techie]

Farage is on my list of people that I never want to have a beer with.

I do. He would be wearing his beer.

 

[Past Engineering]

A few views to ponder with regard the UK, some are from last year but should not have changed drastically:

20 Best (And 11 Worst) Countries To Take Your Business In 2022 - Digital.com

New Survey Names The Best Countries For Starting A Business (forbes.com)

Top 20 largest economies in the world 2022 - Victor Mochere (victor-mochere.com)

Top 15 Countries by GDP in 2022 | Global PEO Services

Countries With The Highest Job Opportunities 2022: Top 11 - Bscholarly

Ranking the 25 Most Powerful Countries in the World (linkedin.com)

What trends will dominate FDI markets in 2022? Investment Monitor

 

[Past Engineering]

Further to my previous, can someone give us an idea of how many leave supporting businesses are doing as badly as some remain supporting ones are seemingly doing, and if there are any remain businesses that are doing as well if not better since the UK left the EU, just so some perspective can be reached with regard to the current UK position in the world.

 

[Cat Techie]

Further to my previous, can someone give us an idea of how many leave supporting businesses are doing as badly as some remain supporting ones are seemingly doing, and if there are any remain businesses that are doing as well if not better since the UK left the EU, just so some perspective can be reached with regard to the current UK position in the world.

The economic figures out today any help? There are no such things as leave and remain businesses anymore. Predictions at the beginning of this year are that. Not worth the typing post Putin.

 

[Cat Techie]

A few views to ponder with regard the UK, some are from last year but should not have changed drastically:

20 Best (And 11 Worst) Countries To Take Your Business In 2022 - Digital.com

New Survey Names The Best Countries For Starting A Business (forbes.com)

Top 20 largest economies in the world 2022 - Victor Mochere (victor-mochere.com)

Top 15 Countries by GDP in 2022 | Global PEO Services

Countries With The Highest Job Opportunities 2022: Top 11 - Bscholarly

Ranking the 25 Most Powerful Countries in the World (linkedin.com)

What trends will dominate FDI markets in 2022? Investment Monitor

None of the links seem to work. Well not on my phone.

 

[busby1971]

Big businesses tended to support remain, national or local businesses might have been more brexit minded.

With Brexit coming at a time of a global pandemic and now a war, which will really start to sting economically once the wheat harvest is missed, it would be virtually impossible to lay any blame entirely at brexit’s door.

Unless you pop on twitter of course then every thing bad is blamed on it.

 

[Rigga]

So I’m not an expert? Like CT I’ve done some time in the RAF as well as outside. I am employed as an expert and manage the managers as well as the shop floor folk. Like CT I do see that spares have slowed down and in some cases it has been a real pain, and ‘we’ are now getting used to it. But these issues are mainly due to politics, not the effort on any agency. EASA (and even EU customs) are willing to let us in but politicians are not giving them the nod. This isn’t Brexit - it’s pure anti-British politics as can be seen in the implementation of the NIP.
As for CTs list of missing industries - that’s our wonderful politicians’ fault in allowing them to move abroad. Too many giveaway pro-europeans…and recreating them is not going to happen either, without breaking further away from the EU…Think on how long that will take CT?

 

[Cat Techie]

So I’m not an expert? Like CT I’ve done some time in the RAF as well as outside. I am employed as an expert and manage the managers as well as the shop floor folk. Like CT I do see that spares have slowed down and in some cases it has been a real pain, and ‘we’ are now getting used to it. But these issues are mainly due to politics, not the effort on any agency. EASA (and even EU customs) are willing to let us in but politicians are not giving them the nod. This isn’t Brexit - it’s pure anti-British politics as can be seen in the implementation of the NIP.
As for CTs list of missing industries - that’s our wonderful politicians’ fault in allowing them to move abroad. Too many giveaway pro-europeans…and recreating them is not going to happen either, without breaking further away from the EU…Think on how long that will take CT?

The Tories sold everything to their mates. Whom sold it for a quick buck. Sid sold his shares for a quick buck. Your give away pro European statement is bull. We have broken away from the EU. Watch out for that free trade deal with the Indians. Free visas for Indians over Britions for jobs.

 

[Past Engineering]

There are no such things as leave and remain businesses anymore

Sorry I must of mis-understood as you quoted your remain leaning company as having problems and I mentioned a leave leaning company that is doing better post leaving, hence my question reference remain and leave leaning companies and who on either side was doing well/bad to get an idea of which side had grasped the mettle so to speak and made the best of leaving.

I fully realise that with the pandemic and now Ukraine war that brexit issues are probably way outweighed by those issues.