Brexit Voter - are you happy?

[Cat Techie]

I can tell you the effects of Brexit just in my sphere. It has affected the British Aviation Industry as making us less competitive that our European competition. We get most of our spares from vendors for Airbuses and other suppliers from abroad. Customs checks now is causing us greater losses due to our aircraft not being able get the fixing spares until much later. We cannot do the inter Europe work as UK operators now due to carbotage rights that are in international law. Yet our CAA allow foreign operators in to do so as we are in so much shite. We cannot employ additional staff from EASA because they cannot work here and their qualifications soon are to be chopped. Ours have been chopped for Europe since the beginning of 2020. I didn't throw my British licence to another NRA, Wish I had, There are jobs I have the rating for I cannot do in this country as I have a "G" only licence! Lots of British pilots are the same. JOTA ended up going bust as they couldn't do their Europe work. Shame, but as most of their engineers voted for Brexit, karma. The EU wasn't perfect and Mutty has mentioned a lot that I would also say, so I would not repeated. Too late now to do anything, I am not going to shout at people but most people in the RAF or ex RAF voted for Brexit. Mostly as ingrained with right wing newspapers views in crew rooms for years, misguided nationalistic notions and lack of real word knowledge. Most on here study actual history to any great level at school or remember any of it? Cause and effect. Rigga can say what he likes but he is only a compliance manager (Quality Manager has been renamed donkeys ago, like Dupes in now military terminology of Independent). Interestingly a mate of mine is involved with setting up a new EASA PART 145 org for a company that has just got its CAA 145. He said the EASA inspection team was way more through and tough in standards to the CAA one!

 

[Cat Techie]

EU membership was a double edged sword with the Sword of Damocles hanging over it.

Free trade was welcomed by most, freedom of movement was welcomed by most. What people didn't want revolves around the opposites of the positives such as freedom of criminal activity, fraud and so on.

Personally I've had to take on a series of language tests, citizenship tests etc to meet the requirements of permanent residency/citizenship of an EU member country that I currently reside in .

I now have three nationalities. I was quite happy with one, but Brexit has somehow expanded the costs of passports to the max.

Biggest fraud is in the UK from the anti EU tax dodgers and white van men. The OAPs fed on hate from the Daily Fail etc like my ranting mother in law were the biggest reason for the mess now. Total fruit cake on the subject. Her husband voted remain as he was educated.

 

[Past Engineering]

Her husband voted remain as he was educated.

So once again there is the same old prejudice from remain that their side had the only educated intelligent people, percentage wise there was as many educated intelligent people on the leave side as there was total fruit cakes on the subject on the remain side.

 

[Talk Wrench]

I can tell you the effects of Brexit just in my sphere. It has affected the British Aviation Industry as making us less competitive that our European competition. We get most of our spares from vendors for Airbuses and other suppliers from abroad. Customs checks now is causing us greater losses due to our aircraft not being able get the fixing spares until much later. We cannot do the inter Europe work as UK operators now due to carbotage rights that are in international law. Yet our CAA allow foreign operators in to do so as we are in so much shite. We cannot employ additional staff from EASA because they cannot work here and their qualifications soon are to be chopped. Ours have been chopped for Europe since the beginning of 2020. I didn't throw my British licence to another NRA, Wish I had, There are jobs I have the rating for I cannot do in this country as I have a "G" only licence! Lots of British pilots are the same. JOTA ended up going bust as they couldn't do their Europe work. Shame, but as most of their engineers voted for Brexit, karma. The EU wasn't perfect and Mutty has mentioned a lot that I would also say, so I would not repeated. Too late now to do anything, I am not going to shout at people but most people in the RAF or ex RAF voted for Brexit. Mostly as ingrained with right wing newspapers views in crew rooms for years, misguided nationalistic notions and lack of real word knowledge. Most on here study actual history to any great level at school or remember any of it? Cause and effect. Rigga can say what he likes but he is only a compliance manager (Quality Manager has been renamed donkeys ago, like Dupes in now military terminology of Independent). Interestingly a mate of mine is involved with setting up a new EASA PART 145 org for a company that has just got its CAA 145. He said the EASA inspection team was way more through and tough in standards to the CAA one!

Utter rubbish

 

[Cat Techie]

Utter rubbish

Really. Utter tripe from you.

 

[Cat Techie]

So once again there is the same old prejudice from remain that their side had the only educated intelligent people, percentage wise there was as many educated intelligent people on the leave side as there was total fruit cakes on the subject on the remain side.

The truth. The hatred of the gammons here is nazi levels that was seen in Germany in the 30s. Scary actually.

 

[Past Engineering]

It was that arrogance and ignorance from remain that also helped them lose the argument, as it does with all those of a similar ilk on other subjects.

 

[Cat Techie]

Utter rubbish

Tell that to the boss of my airline and he would back me up.

 

[Cat Techie]

It was that arrogance and ignorance from remain that also helped them lose the argument, as it does with all those of a similar ilk on other subjects.

Arrogance of the Tories.

 

[Past Engineering]

Oh dear you really are stuck in that remain bubble of denial and righteousness, it won't gain you much support.

As to your boss was he one of many remain bosses who thought they would win so never bothered getting ready for leaving and left sorting out the new working regulations a tad late, as all the ones I know who got sorted in time are quite happy thank you.

 

[Cat Techie]

Utter rubbish

You don't work for a British company do you, so how do you know I am talking rubbish? As you said, you have had to jump through hoops to stay where you are? You voted for that shite? Sign of complete illogical though process.

 

[Cat Techie]

Oh dear you really are stuck in that remain bubble of denial and righteousness, it won't gain you much support.

As to your boss was he one of many remain bosses who thought they would win so never bothered getting ready for leaving and left sorting out the new working regulations a tad late, as all the ones I know who got sorted in time are quite happy thank you.

Past Engineering. The past. You work in Civvy aviation at all? Boss is one trying to keep his business afloat with all the additional shite that has returned from pre 90s. Shite people like you have caused..

 

[Talk Wrench]

Really. Utter tripe from you.

Triggered much?

 

[muttywhitedog]

Question for those of you who voted for Brexit......

Are you happy with what you got?
Has it panned out how you thought?
Do anything different?

Lets try and keep it civil - we discussed this at work and almost to a man the pro-brexit voters wished they had voted remain now.....

4 days in, and nobody has yet posted something positive that has occurred....

 

[Barch]

4 days in, and nobody has yet posted something positive that has occurred....

Was that part of the original question ?

 

[Past Engineering]

As it happens yes I have and as a consultant still do, the problem most companies I know have is with EU and UK remain devotees who won't let it go and through bitterness and resentment over losing are constantly putting up obstacles to others who are getting getting on with it, which is not helping themselves or others.

I have a young son in law who has done very well in an international financial service, he is now a director of finance, he/they voted leave and are doing extremely well without EU interference and are expanding better than before the UK left and he says the same thing as I have above, but explains it better than I have the time or inclination to do here.

I also know people in other areas of the aircraft industry who voted leave and they say the biggest problem is still with the EU who are trying to support the remain argument that it was a bad decision, but that is just making their businesses suffer as a result of losing business from that intransigence, bearing in mind they import more from the UK, than we import from them.

 

[Talk Wrench]

4 days in, and nobody has yet posted something positive that has occurred....

Brexit hasn't really happened has it. Maybe that's why.

You don't work for a British company do you, so how do you know I am talking rubbish? As you said, you have had to jump through hoops to stay where you are? You voted for that shite? Sign of complete illogical though process.

Who I work for is irrelevant but guess what numb nuts, it's a British company. I didn't get a vote but if I'd have been given the opportunity, I'd have voted LEAVE. The EU is a disaster for the people living under the yellow starred blue flag.

Unless you want full blown, failing socialism, leaving the EU is the best option the UK ever had.

 

[Past Engineering]

I want to know what is the new date for when the following is now going to happen as these were the prime remain argument that they have never answered as to why they have not occurred yet:

1. The UK economy will tank to the bottom of the worlds economic league, we are still 5th.
2. No airlines will be able to land in or fly over any EU country.
3. The pound would be worthless, it is still 5th.
4. All exports/imports will stop and all lorries will be parked up in southern England.
5. The car industry would leave the UK in total.
6. The financial services would collapse as they all exited the UK.
7. All UK citizens would have to return to UK.
8. All EU citizens would have to leave the UK.
9. The holiday, food and service industries would collapse due to lack of EU workers,. Before anyone jumps on that one most of this has happened as a consequence of the pandemic not Brexit.

And many more.

 

[Cat Techie]

Rubbish.

Brexit hasn't really happened has it. Maybe that's why.

Who I work for is irrelevant but guess what numb nuts, it's a British company. I didn't get a vote but if I'd have been given the opportunity, I'd have voted LEAVE. The EU is a disaster for the people living under the yellow starred blue flag.

Unless you want full blown, failing socialism, leaving the EU is the best option the UK ever had.

 

[Past Engineering]

The truth. The hatred of the gammons here is nazi levels that was seen in Germany in the 30s. Scary actually.
Really. Utter tripe from you.
Arrogance of the Tories.
Rubbish.

Great debating skills and I thought in their own minds that remain voters were the erudite, intelligent part of the population that cannot ever be wrong, just goes to show how wrong one can be.