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why doesn't anybody rate the Raf regiment?

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twadugs

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Who am I?..Why i'm Me!

Who am I?..Why i'm Me!

Alte Kameraden... its not what others think of you that matters...its what you think of yourself!!

Be comfortable with yourself: confident, content and proud of what you do, or have done. And read on the history of your Regiment and the fine men that have served and continue to do so.
Per Adua


P.S. If you have got to boast and mouth -off about yourself and your regiment and put down others....there's usually insecurity and a feeling of inadequacy.
 

GunnerP

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P.S. If you have got to boast and mouth -off about yourself and your regiment and put down others....there's usually insecurity and a feeling of inadequacy.

Or was it too many Brandy Sours??:pDT_Xtremez_26:
 
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Arctine

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My brother is a Royal Marines commando, got back from a 5 month tour of Afghan this month. He told me the most annoying force he had to work with out there was the RAF regiment gunners. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'.

There is no elite three. The Royal Marines are the most elite British force, the reason paras and gunners say they're in the 'elite three' is because they want the same recognition as the marines. Go talk to a Royal Marine about it and see how much they laugh at you.
 

Weebl

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My brother is a Royal Marines commando, got back from a 5 month tour of Afghan this month. He told me the most annoying force he had to work with out there was the RAF regiment gunners. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'.

There is no elite three. The Royal Marines are the most elite British force, the reason paras and gunners say they're in the 'elite three' is because they want the same recognition as the marines. Go talk to a Royal Marine about it and see how much they laugh at you.

Well my mum is a member of the WI (SF) division and she said the thing that most annoys her are Marines going on about how they are the 'elitest' of all the many thousands of elite units out there.

Go ask my mum, she will laugh at you.

Back in the land of reality, lots of units think they are the best, they are mainly just different and trained for different roles. It is human nature to believe the small group you belong to is the best thing since sliced bread and everybody else is rubbish in comparison. As a member of the Military this can even be a good thing.

It does not however mean we have to believe everybody who says the group their brother belongs to is the bestest.
 

docbombhead

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My brother is a Royal Marines commando, got back from a 5 month tour of Afghan this month. He told me the most annoying force he had to work with out there was the RAF regiment gunners. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'.

There is no elite three. The Royal Marines are the most elite British force, the reason paras and gunners say they're in the 'elite three' is because they want the same recognition as the marines. Go talk to a Royal Marine about it and see how much they laugh at you.

Spooky or what ?

My brother is a postman, he's just got back from a 12 hr shift . He told me the most annoying force he had to work with was parcel force. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'.

There is no elite three. The delivery men are the most elite in the Royal Mail , the reason post office counter staff and parcel force say they're in the 'elite three' is because they want the same recognition as the postman, he's on the streets in all weathers. Go talk to a Royal Mail postie about it and see how much they laugh at you.:pDT_Xtremez_15:
 

Gunnerrock

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My brother is a Royal Marines commando, got back from a 5 month tour of Afghan this month. He told me the most annoying force he had to work with out there was the RAF regiment gunners. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'.

There is no elite three. The Royal Marines are the most elite British force, the reason paras and gunners say they're in the 'elite three' is because they want the same recognition as the marines. Go talk to a Royal Marine about it and see how much they laugh at you.

Feck off you prick, if you want a bite go fish someplace else..........
 
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Spooky or what ?

My brother is a postman, he's just got back from a 12 hr shift . He told me the most annoying force he had to work with was parcel force. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'.

There is no elite three. The delivery men are the most elite in the Royal Mail , the reason post office counter staff and parcel force say they're in the 'elite three' is because they want the same recognition as the postman, he's on the streets in all weathers. Go talk to a Royal Mail postie about it and see how much they laugh at you.:pDT_Xtremez_15:


HAHAHAHAHA that is fukcing classic!! If i knew you, id buy you a pint!

As for the topic, its getting boring now. End Ex?.....
 
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redrun

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Rating the RAF Regt

Rating the RAF Regt

I think that we are all getting above ourselves here a bit. All this talk of SF is a dream. Most never try it, fewer pass it then go on to have a decent career.
The current RAF Regt is seen as a luxury that cannot be afforded today and sadly the defence cuts will show that. We have hung our hats on being masters of defending or guarding a static area while others actively look to find and engage the enemy. When we left TELIC we were replaced by contractors from Africa (2009)!!!
Regarding us as elite is way off the mark, in Basrah we were regarded as the EFFI guard force by the infantry!
Individually yes we are good, but only because we do not train collectively above section level, its easy to train on a weapons system when thats all we have to do. Our Officers (many are failed Army Officer candidates) do not command in a fluid battlespace so are not really tested above glorified guard commanders.
Yes its sad but lets stop kidding each other on, we all live in a closed environiment where most of us do not see the Army other than from a tower as the depart or securing the gate after the leave. So pointless to keep this going lets just be honest with each other..
Forget the word elite and all the talk about how hard pre para is, it the collective joined up stuff that we just cant do, we are not structured for it.
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The more informed people would actually know that the SAS recruit RAF Regt.

Selection is held twice a year regardless of conditions. A candidate must be male and have been a regular member of the Armed Forces for at least three years or a member of 21 SAS or 23 SAS (which can be joined directly from civilian life) for at least 18 months. All soldiers who apply must have at least 39 months of military service remaining. A candidate who fails any stage of the selection is 'Returned to [his parent] Unit' (RTU'd). Candidates are allowed only two attempts at selection, after which they may never reapply. Many are not even allowed that.

Like other sections of the British armed forces, the SAS accepts members from the Commonwealth and The Republic of Ireland, with notable representation from Fiji, the former Rhodesia, New Zealand and Australia. The Parachute Regiment is the SAS's main recruiting area.

The selection phase can be broken down in to three main sections: 1) Physical endurance 2) Combat 3) Survival and evading capture
The physical endurance phase is the phase in which most candidates will be eliminated due to the difficulty of the test. The SAS use the Brecon Beacons in Wales to carry out the test. The candidates must under go a long distance hike, and a short distance, but timed, run. For the long distance test, the candidates will carry about 50-80lbs of weight including a rifle. The short distance run is usually 8 miles, but the candidates must complete this in an hour.

The combat phase is held in the jungle, normally in Africa or Asia. This is where the successful candidates will learn to use weapons and tactics to outwit and outmanouver enemy forces. The SAS, unlike most regiments, uses live ammunition on their combat phase. This is because they are trained to fight while considering friendly positions from the start, so that they can carry this straight on to the battlefield: 'You only get one chance'.

If candidates have managed to pass through this combat phase then now they have to go through survival and escape and evasion training. In this phase candidates that are left from the hundreds that apply will undergo a survival phase in the jungle, in which they only have a small 'survival kit'. They must 'survive' for a week while evading an enemy tracking party. This is a particularly hard phase because the tracking party is normally accustomed to the ground. After this week, the candidates must give themselves up at an agreed meeting point. They will then be taken back to the enemy HQ and interrogated. This interrogation phase will make or break their career as they must under go physical and mental torture as well as aggressive interrogation. The SAS will roughly accept 2-7% of the soldiers that started selection.
Personnel completing selection are placed on probation for 4 years and undergo specialist and continuation training appropriate to their employing Troop or more general training such as language. This training will include Jungle, Desert, Urban and Counter-terrorism specialist courses.

I hope that answers your question..
 
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I think that we are all getting above ourselves here a bit. All this talk of SF is a dream. Most never try it, fewer pass it then go on to have a decent career.
The current RAF Regt is seen as a luxury that cannot be afforded today and sadly the defence cuts will show that. We have hung our hats on being masters of defending or guarding a static area while others actively look to find and engage the enemy. When we left TELIC we were replaced by contractors from Africa (2009)!!!
Regarding us as elite is way off the mark, in Basrah we were regarded as the EFFI guard force by the infantry!
Individually yes we are good, but only because we do not train collectively above section level, its easy to train on a weapons system when thats all we have to do. Our Officers (many are failed Army Officer candidates) do not command in a fluid battlespace so are not really tested above glorified guard commanders.
Yes its sad but lets stop kidding each other on, we all live in a closed environiment where most of us do not see the Army other than from a tower as the depart or securing the gate after the leave. So pointless to keep this going lets just be honest with each other..
Forget the word elite and all the talk about how hard pre para is, it the collective joined up stuff that we just cant do, we are not structured for it.
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When was the last time you were actually on Ops with the Regt?NI?

From the "fact" that we dont train above section level (?)

Or in actuality, in 2009 in Basrah, the Army were stagging on super sangers as we deployed out on the ground.We didn't stag on the gate at Basrah, and we certainly don't do it in Bastion or KAF, theres foriegn forces for that.So when exactly are you talking about?

We are certainly not a luxury, hence the Regt expanding consistently over the last 5 years.

No we are not elite, but neither are we gate guards, we are a specalised infantry force, who are very good at what we do.

So in a word, your post is bollocks.
 
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lets face it there is only an elite two, Paras and Marines, RAF regiment are a fine body of men etc etc bit dont have the same offensive spirit.

As an aside i have played inter service league footy against Paras and Marines and gubbed both of them.

Against the Paras as soon as it became obvious they were beat(4-1 with 15 mins to go)they turned nasty,and post match beer involved being asked outside and generally fearing for our lives.

Against the marines at Condor we were 5-1 up in a snow storm with 5 mins to go and they(god bless em)were still running about as if they could still win and i may add in a sporting manner.
Post match beer was also a good crack.

However if jonny Taliban was about to cut my head off live on al jazeera
and i had one phone call it would be those well trained rottweillers the
parachute regiment i would call.
 
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My brother is a Royal Marines commando, got back from a 5 month tour of Afghan this month. He told me the most annoying force he had to work with out there was the RAF regiment gunners. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'. QUOTE]


I've worked with the rocks quite abit over the past 6 years with a few different sqn's and not once did I ever hear any gunner say they were part of the big three! ever!
 
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cockneyrock

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My brother is a Royal Marines commando, got back from a 5 month tour of Afghan this month. He told me the most annoying force he had to work with out there was the RAF regiment gunners. His reason? They kept going on about how they were apart of the 'elite three'. QUOTE]


I've worked with the rocks quite abit over the past 6 years with a few different sqn's and not once did I ever hear any gunner say they were part of the big three! ever!

I have served in the RAF Regiment for the last 13 years and I can honestly say, with one hand on my heart and the other on my mud guard, that I also have never heard anyone in the mob mention "RAF Regiment" and "the big three" in the same sentence for anything other than to ask "who the f@ck ever suggested the RAF Regiment was part of the big three?!"

In fact, the only people I have ever heard say "the RAF Regiment are part of the big three" are trolls on 'the goat' and arrse". Maybe they think it but don't want to admit it.....?

I'm happy and proud of what I do so feck 'em.
 

Joe_90

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My brother swears blind he heard an SAC Rock on BFBS radio in Cyprus declare himself part of the Big Three about 5 years ago. He reckons the guy was a fat waster but he still said it.
 
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cockneyrock

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My brother swears blind he heard an SAC Rock on BFBS radio in Cyprus declare himself part of the Big Three about 5 years ago. He reckons the guy was a fat waster but he still said it.

Another unsubstantiated quote. Find us the BFBS clip and I'll believe you otherwise your "brothers" opinion can be consigned to the bin containing all the other "I once met a bloke who had a mate who's brother was living in a room next to a guy who's sister was married to a bloke who overheard another fella say he saw an RAF Regt Gunner 100m away across a vehicle park in the 'stan say that "the RAF Regiment are part of the big three".

As for fat blokes, every arm and service has them unfortunately.
 

dahonis

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The people that talk about the "big three" are the one who dont have a clue and heave never worked for them but are just band wagon cabbies.

III Para hate I Para and II Para hate the rest.

The Marines like only themselves but hate the rest of the fish head service.

I have had the pleasure over the last 18 years to work with all of the so called "big three" and out of all of them the Mudguard wearing boys come top, and do you know why ?..... its because they are always being themselves and will teach anything to those who want to learn.

The Para's just expect you to know stuff, the Marines will only acknowledge your being after a month or two, but the Rocks, hell they at least come and introduce themselves....that alone speaks volumes.

Oh and by the way, these defence cuts will not see the end of days for the Regiment....but wont be able to say that about the Para's and the Marine unit's....hers to you boyz
 

dahonis

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and straight off the press after the defence review......para's and marine units will merge to form a new one......Rocks are here to stay !!!!
 
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