11k pre tax will be easily eaten up with increased pension and commuting costs, so best case would be back where you've started, which is no bad thing, quality of life could be better, although KS did mention that the salary includes shift so basic could be a lot less for an easier life.
Regional airline B1 LAEs on flat rates earn less that the A Cats for Jet 2 etc. As a B1 with 3 types when at Eastern, I just topped 50. On less with my current company.
I think it’s mainly a Service thing, where you automatically live where you work.
I did, and I earn considerably more than £50k but I am multi licensed and multi typed. However, it is not for everyone, as some have said there may not be an airport within easy commute, for others the aviation industry can be quite volatile, and that volatility presents problems/uncertainties. Many of my colleagues were shown the door during Covid for example and have subsequently moved away from aviation and will probably not go back. I've been out 13 yrs or so and had 4 employers for example ( 2 of those employers I rented accommodation when on shift).
Hence why I said "very broadly" at the outset. Eastern are 'bottom feeders' in every sense of the word. Lakey is a complete d1ckhead as I am sure you will agree
Try KLM UKE at NWI, never got in there and they do not pay. They are happy to be a licence school and use the young boys. Tricky is that. Depends where you got into the business. End of the day a 6 week course gets you rated once you have first type. You get the actual knowledge working on them, application of the competency you have already (I have seen some horror stories in my time of 13 years outside mind).
Totally agree with you regarding KLM - I know a few connys there who just do the winter schedule then have our summer off. However there are other operators at NWI in the rotary world, who most certainly do pay. Yes the expectations are high with those employers, but the cash in the bank at the end of the month can ease the pain somewhat. But again they are beholden to volatility of oil prices, so there can often be an unceremonious cull of staff, so it is not always a good option.... Its about riding the wave for as long as you can, jump onto the next wave, before it crashes on the beach.
Cannot disagree.
not many as they charge a pi55taking amount in the mess, the last few have been in the local town, 3 course sit down for half the price the Mess/ISS wanted to charge, and the food was better!
And it's people like you turning down promotion and blocking progression that are partly causing the problem. Not wanting to step outside your comfort zone. Letting the punchy minority take on all the hard work until they are burnt out.
Sounds a tad HARSH!! I can tell you right now that the people who DON'T want promoted are exactly the people the RAF needs but they're NOT stupid. When you have an organisation which is thriving on back-stabbing and self-serving people to get to the top why shouldn't the SMART people take a good wage and let others play politics when you are near your home and have a good quality of family life???!!!! I would argue it's the accelerated promotion of the undeserving and self-serving tick-boxers with actual limited experience that is causing more issues!!!!! Myself..... I don't need a full-time job to top up my pension. Got my mortgage paid!!!!!! Not going to rag myself in an American style corporate model to show what is like on the outside because others haven't planned 22 years in advance!! I DID PLAN...22 Years in advance!!!!!!!
I understand that not wanting promotion and keeping people in post for many years aids stability and keeps experience. It also harbours the "we've always done it that way" mentality. There is a need for both thought processes.
Slightly right. I've always believed that those who go past 22 fall into 1 of 3 types.
