Air Recruits and Air Specialists

[Rigga]

My theory is that MOD is based in Londonstan.
Londonstan is the world's centre for 'the arts', the BBC and representations of every other pandering organisation across the whole world.
Whether they know it or not, MOD and its representatives are batheing in this mire of pandering every day and they begin to see the conditions THEY SEE every day as 'normal'...which it isnt for the rest of the country....
Hence, you (RAF) are having 'designer gear' thrown at you and all sorts of Londonstan targets are made, thrust out against common acceptance and enforced by JSP readers.

...my rant...soz

Edited bit:
I was chatting to my Landlords the other day (of my flat in Londonstan) and told them that, although we have stopped pointing at cars, we still point to people of colour in many parts of Norfolk...and they were aghast! We don't have any in my village as the one we did have died a few years ago (a very nice chap too) So - I believe this is why many people in rural areas don't really see/equate to seeing so many "PoC" on UK TV and adverts....

 

[Cornish_Pikey]

Sir Lenny Henry has said it is "interesting" to see the apparent lack of black people in the audience at Glastonbury Festival.

Glastonbury: Sir Lenny Henry discusses festival diversity

Sir Lenny Henry says he is "always surprised by the lack of black and brown faces at festivals".

www.bbc.co.uk

However, by national averages and not the greatest source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom) it seems that 1.5% are recorded as black across the UK population.

So if there are 100,000 people at Glastonbury you might reasonably expect to see approximately 98,500 white people and 1,500 black.

 

[vim_fuego]

Edited bit:
I was chatting to my Landlords the other day (of my flat in Londonstan) and told them that, although we have stopped pointing at cars, we still point to people of colour in many parts of Norfolk...and they were aghast! We don't have any in my village as the one we did have died a few years ago (a very nice chap too) So - I believe this is why many people in rural areas don't really see/equate to seeing so many "PoC" on UK TV and adverts....

I think I've recanted this before on here but...in the same vein as above...my eldest (now 19.5 and 6'3") was born in Raigmore and lived, up until the age they start uttering a couple of coherent words, in Nairn. The only black person in Nairn was the fella who ran the only curry house (which was excellent)...so the opportunity for my lad to see a black person was totally zero. We then get a posting to London. Boxes unpacked and decide to jump onto the tube into the centre for a leg stretch. On the Met line with about 5 stops before Baker Street and my Luke, strapped into his stroller, leans across and rubs a black chaps hand he's sat next to and says 'Dirty!'. I knew what he was getting at as if he'd played in the garden and got his hands in soil we'd say 'dirty hands' and wash him...and he was only informing the chap of what he thought was the situation.

We have never dismounted a tube so fast in our lives...and waited for the next one whilst trying to explain things really quickly to barely a toddler!

 

[unruly1986]

Oh come on Ady,

This isn't about you or your 32 years of service, it's all about making upset little wokies feel better about themselves these days.

What's really surprising however is that the new uniform isn't made out of bubble wrap and cotton wool.

Is this satire?

 

[tornadofairy]

So, (as most people on T V seem to start a sentence…), they have done away with most of the ranks I held, the uniform I had and the aircraft I worked on (except the Puma)… What next, my pension?

 

[Oldstacker]

So, (as most people on T V seem to start a sentence…), they have done away with most of the ranks I held, the uniform I had and the aircraft I worked on (except the Puma)… What next, my pension?

I get what you mean and sort of feel the same... But, I guess, those who served from the 50s through to the 70s (I joined in 76) likely felt the same about the changes that created the service I (we?) felt so comfortable in....

 

[UlsterExile]

Its all BOLLOCKS!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stevienics]

Society changes, and consequently, the military, which is made up of society and defends society, must change also. I'm sure that back in the day, the old sweats were up in arms that flogging was banned. Something about embracing change etc.

We're there to protect it, not replicate it. That's just the sales pitch from inside the M25 - this is just cosmetic nonsense to keep the ministry of woke happy.

 

[Deltaitem]

It's pretty hard for a military to defend a society that it doesn't identify with. It'll be pretty hard for a military to actually revcruit anyone from society if there wasn't a broad parity in viewpoint. The army's worked that one out.

 

[Stevienics]

"It's pretty hard for a military to defend a society that it doesn't identify with"

Nonsense - be around for long enough and you'll serve on behalf of many woeful societies. The Army are spending millions in some lacklustre attempt at replicating wokeness in order to meet the trickle down aspirations of some ill-informed Whitehall marketing guru - so be it. As long as I don't have to sell this nonsense, I'll crack on with the real stuff.

 

[Barch]

Another question about the new ranks, specifically on computer based systems ...

What are the legalities of documents that are 'electronically signed off' but don't reflect the new ranks ?

 

[Talk Wrench]

"It's pretty hard for a military to defend a society that it doesn't identify with"

Nonsense - be around for long enough and you'll serve on behalf of many woeful societies. The Army are spending millions in some lacklustre attempt at replicating wokeness in order to meet the trickle down aspirations of some ill-informed Whitehall marketing guru - so be it. As long as I don't have to sell this nonsense, I'll crack on with the real stuff.

I've spoken to a few PVR'ees recently. The most common complaint across the board is they are sick to the back teeth of enforced woke policy. They're going back into civvy street to get back to normality instead of being forced to serve under, as one young man put it, "the wokelords"

 

[Poutramos Poutros Poutra]

I've spoken to a few PVR'ees recently. The most common complaint across the board is they are sick to the back teeth of enforced woke policy. They're going back into civvy street to get back to normality instead of being forced to serve under, as one young man put it, "the wokelords"

I think civvy street is probably going down a similar path.

 

[Barch]

I've spoken to a few PVR'ees recently. The most common complaint across the board is they are sick to the back teeth of enforced woke policy. They're going back into civvy street to get back to normality instead of being forced to serve under, as one young man put it, "the wokelords"

I think civvy street is probably going down a similar path.

Not in my experience.

Over the last two years I have worked at several different companies at several sites in the north of England and have not seen any 'wokeness' on anywhere near the same level as the RAF is pushing their bumph at.

 

[Poutramos Poutros Poutra]

Not in my experience.

Over the last two years I have worked at several different companies at several sites in the north of England and have not seen any 'wokeness' on anywhere near the same level as the RAF is pushing their bumph at.

I defer to your experience Barch, I can only go off what I see on the UK news and what I hear from former colleagues.

 

[Rigga]

I think civvy street is probably going down a similar path.

In all of the companies I’ve worked with over that last 20+ years - being PC and now Woke is only perceptible in HR dept letters - and mostly not even in HR departments.

Being Woke and Wokeology is a BBC and Civil Service ‘thing’ brought about by University lecturing and BBC adoption of the ‘latest thing’.

 

[Poutramos Poutros Poutra]

In all of the companies I’ve worked with over that last 20+ years - being PC and now Woke is only perceptible in HR dept letters - and mostly not even in HR departments.

Being Woke and Wokeology is a BBC and Civil Service ‘thing’ brought about by University lecturing and BBC adoption of the ‘latest thing’.

My last two posts were in the NHS and a university so maybe that's why I perceive more woke than some others on here.

 

[Fu Fu Valve]

I'm an instructor with the Air Cadets - I updated the presentation we have on the Introduction to the RAF so it reflected the new ranks - because I can guarantee it'll take HQ Air Cadets an eternity to catch up (I usually have to fix the presentations they send out anyway - last time we got updated teaching presentations one said if you put an aircraft into a climb it's speed increases!).
I've been told that until HQ Air Cadets issues an IBN notifying us of the change we can't use the updated presentation.

I'm not going to teach new cadets something that's out of date because we haven't had an IBN, especially now when we have a cadet who is looking to transition.

From discussing the changes with the cadets most of them think it's a load of woke drivel, but it's come from the top of the service that the RAF will be the most inclusive and welcoming service so we just have to get on with it.

 

[Barch]

My last two posts were in the NHS and a university so maybe that's why I perceive more woke than some others on here.

Starting with Universities - probably the originators of the majority of wokeness.
NHS - Government organisation kowtowing to the whims of the fluffy brigade.

Neither can really be described as reflecting civilian society.

 

[Deltaitem]

The NHS employs over a million people from all walks of life, right across the country. I'd say they are an excellent barometer of what people think. Or maybe that they simply represent views that you disagree with?