Retention bonus for Marines

[Tin basher]

So to stop the man power drain selected skill sets within the marines are in for a 20K payout spread over four years if they stay in uniform, particularly the ones with some tech knowledge such as flying drones, directing precision air strikes etc.

Elite commandos offered a £20,000 bonus

The payments will be available to those who have served for at least four-and-a-half years, as commanders try to persuade Marines who can operate high-tech equipment not to leave.

www.dailymail.co.uk

We had something like the marines scenario many years ago, bonus at 41/2 years and then again at 7 years maybe it's time to reinvent the bonus wheel using bigger numbers.

 

[unruly1986]

Biggest hint yet that AFPRB is about to hit the streets... I wonder if the recommendations for ‘Eng Pay’ will be implemented.

 

[vim_fuego]

I think it might get a bit scary on the outside, especially in the next financial year (this one is already staked out but is already coming under pressure via budget cuts). I thik if you're in and even just mildly p1ssed off that's sufficient to stay put until we see what this sh1tshow does to the job market.

 

[busby1971]

Aerospace and aircraft badly hit as well

 

[Barch]

Maybe instead of a financial bonus they could look at promotion in 2 years for anyone that has got 2 years in rank under their belt plus a small small financial bonus at promotion time.

 

[Talk Wrench]

I was always led to believe that the Marines were retentive by nature, whatever that may mean

 

[unruly1986]

Maybe instead of a financial bonus they could look at promotion in 2 years for anyone that has got 2 years in rank under their belt plus a small small financial bonus at promotion time.

Do you mean automatic promotion i.e. time based, or 2 years for eligibility?

 

[Barch]

Do you mean automatic promotion i.e. time based, or 2 years for eligibility?

Basically, yes.

 

[Tin basher]

Do you mean automatic promotion i.e. time based, or 2 years for eligibility?

There was time promotion back in the day and all a useless muppet had to do was lay low, stay out of trouble and mark time until it was their turn to move up a rung. Upwards movement on ability is the way forward. Yes the assessment scheme is pants and yes good folk slip through the system and yes sometimes an underachieving feckwit gets promoted but any system based on merit, even if flawed, is better than one based on an office wall calendar.

 

[busby1971]

There was time promotion back in the day and all a useless muppet had to do was lay low, stay out of trouble and mark time until it was their turn to move up a rung. Upwards movement on ability is the way forward. Yes the assessment scheme is pants and yes good folk slip through the system and yes sometimes an underachieving feckwit gets promoted but any system based on merit, even if flawed, is better than one based on an office wall calendar.

Used to get quite a few ACS failures in those days.

 

[Cornish_Pikey]

There was time promotion back in the day and all a useless muppet had to do was lay low, stay out of trouble and mark time until it was their turn to move up a rung. Upwards movement on ability is the way forward. Yes the assessment scheme is pants and yes good folk slip through the system and yes sometimes an underachieving feckwit gets promoted but any system based on merit, even if flawed, is better than one based on an office wall calendar.

Time promotion fecked up the RAF in the early 90's. I turned up on my first squadron in 1990 and I was the only SAC there. There were loads of (ex appo and DE) Cpls all on timed promotion. Even a lot of the chiefs had been time promoted from previous timed promotion schemes. No promotion meant no need for fitters courses and no promotion prospects for anyone. Total dead mans shoes.

 

[Barch]

If you want to retain someone offer them promotion at 4 years since last promotion plus a smallish bonus at time of promotion.

If you don't want someone don't make the offer.

The easiest way to fúck it up is to ask for volunteers.

Get rid of narrative biased assessments.

 

[Cornish_Pikey]

What about those that are happy in their current role and don't feel any urge to progress. Sometimes the best technicians leave because they become unhappy managers having been forced to climb the greasy pole for a few more years of employment.

There's not many companies that promote their best people into jobs they are not trained or experienced in and then expect them to hit the ground running.

 

[Barch]

What about those that are happy in their current role and don't feel any urge to progress. Sometimes the best technicians leave because they become unhappy managers having been forced to climb the greasy pole for a few more years of employment.

There's not many companies that promote their best people into jobs they are not trained or experienced in and then expect them to hit the ground running.

If you want to retain someone and they don't want promotion give them a small retention bonus but don't promote them, it isn't rocket science.

The keyword is OFFER.

 

[busby1971]

Theres normally three main career pipelines, high skilled specialist, those that can manage a specialisation and then general managers who are able to make the mental leap into cross functional leadership who draw on the skills of their teams. There’s no reason why there’s can’t be a bit of progression and enhanced reward within all three streams, however the first two will have organisational limits that tend to be lower than the last three.

Unless things have changed I can’t see the RAF having the flexibility to accommodate an artisan tradesman earning more than a Manager. People who accidentally find themselves in the wrong pipeline but don’t realise it become a problem, and in the RAF because you get your next job on how good you were at your last job you do end up with plenty of people who should have got off the career bus a little earlier.

Time promotion sends a shiver down my back, all the bad bits and none of the good bits, and the problems do build over time.

 

[Cooheed]

Time promotion is wrong as highlighted above. People could get out of their depth quickly. Mind, over assessing does exactly the same thing in F6000, or whatever they call it these days..

 

[Barch]

It doesn't have to be time promotion per se just one offer of promotion a couple of years down the line for those that you wish to keep.

 

[Cooheed]

Rendering the promotion and assessment system meaningless?

 

[Barch]

Time promotion is wrong as highlighted above. People could get out of their depth quickly. Mind, over assessing does exactly the same thing in F6000, or whatever they call it these days..

Thing is nowadays the ones that get promoted are those that have a secondary duty / volunteer job that takes them away from their prime task.
Do the RAF want to pay these people a retention bonus or those that work to help keep the jets flying ?

 

[Barch]

Rendering the promotion and assessment system meaningless?

The assessment system is a total cockup because it relies too heavily on the narratives and they are reliant on the authors ability to use words and that spoils the promotion system.