Officers' Forum

[sausage2]

errrrrrrr Let me think.............. No you can not

Well said bit. Dont get me wrong, I've nothing againt officers, exept they dont try to eat the elephant one bite at a time!!!

As for M for Mother, has it not occured to you that some people may not want to be officers, don't go on about pushing your self and comfort zone, cos thats just officer crap talk.

Personally I'd hate to be a eng officer, who do no engineering, and are little more than glorified adminers. And secondly it would mean I would have to drink in the mess with people like you and other tosser officers who quite frankly I wouldn't pi$$ on if they were on fire.

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

If you knew me, then you would know that I couldnt give a flying feck about a commission. Never have applied and never wanted too, that is personal choice. I have enjoyed my time in the mob. I have worked with some excellent officers, worked with some complete cocks too. Thinking about it they had elevated opinions of themselves too. Just because you have been to Cranwell, that does not make you a better person than me, it doesnt mean you have any better upbringing, standards, morals, leadership skills, writing skills, oral skills (pretty proficient at that ladies!!! ) or anything for that matter. I chose not to apply because I didnt want to, simple!

I have never and (for the love of God I hope) will never be Aircrew

thought you wanted to achieve and strive to be the best? Doesnt seem to me like you went for it all. Guess Int O was the easy way in eh? Couple of Janes manuals and DRJ.

I am having a fantastic time in my job, I wouldnt change it for the earth. I do not need to improve or move on.

The reason so much Vitriol has been passed is what started out as a bit of fun has changed to a them vs us, and some of your comments have inflammed it with your superior and holier than thou attitude. You would still fall with a chair on your head, commissioned or not.

On the subject of born into poverty, just because one isnt born into money doesnt mean they are unworthy of a commission. Just because you have a silver spoon doesnt make you worthy of holding the Queens Commission, maybe you were at the right place at the right time.

 

[Bitburger]

Forum for M for Mother

Forum for M for Mother

M for Mother

Ok lets get a few things straight.

We do not resent Officers, just the ones with attitudes like you have.

You are already boring the wider community.

You are not getting an Officers Forum, get over it and move on.

 

[Stax]

I honestly believe the Commisioned classes should have a forum of their own..............preferably the Forum of Ancient Rome! The orifices could act the part of the Christians and we could set them up against wild animals. The only problem is they would talk about JOCC, ISCS and all the other Rodney/Rupert stuff, this would incur the wrath of the RSPCA as a cruel and unusual punishment for the rabid wolves! M has obviously taken, hook, line and sinker the idea that just because you can pass a course at Cranwell it makes you a leader of men (and women and gay people) Well I'm sorry M you really need to get a grip and realise that being an officer is more than a stiff upper lip, a bald patch and a handlebar moustache!

 

[jeff]

Let It Lie!!

Let It Lie!!

C'mon Salty, its all good banter.

I couldn't give a flying fcuk why you followed me, just that you did. Its not my fault if there are individuals on here that fancy a scrap over a simple request, (it was going so well!).

I have never and (for the love of God I hope) will never be Aircrew, although some of my friends are. I still like them though.

I find it really suprising that so much vitriol has poured forth over this, you obviously resent Officers, which is your choice. I am just curious as to why that is? Most of the other troops I have met with chips on their shoulders have either been 1) turned down before OASC 2) turned down at OASC or 3) Born in poverty.

Get a grip fella, life is not fair - that doesn't mean you have to b'itch and moan about your lot. If you're unhappy; improve. This is a website to discuss RAF topics, it seems reasonable to have an Officers' Forum where things like JOCC, ICSC and promotions can be discussed without boring the wider community.

MFM

Enough's enough M!

I've watched you go down in flames for a while and have to agree with Stax/Bitt/Plumber et al: You're embarassing y'self mate. This is an open forum for all - and we are all equal (even us Northerners).
A forum for Officers may be a quaint idea, but what do you fear of mixing it with the geezas on the floor. After all, you probably do it every day. Anyway talk of ISSC/JOCC is frankly boring. That is not the spirit of this site.
As for "chips on shoulders" and "the love of God" preventing you from being aircrew - you contradict yourself. If you are going to harp on about "improving" then take a look inward; You are losing a banter war to those very individuals who you are attempting to Lord it over. Moreover - if you ain't aircrew, you probably wanted to be at some point and then realised that "life is not fair".
Don't be too down on yourself though M! Just try to be the best at whatever trade you are, and don't mess around with the big nasty Hairies unless you have a decent point to make.
Oh - and don't slag off aircrew when you are being outclassed by your 'underlings'. We may be Ruperts, but at least we can boast that we are doing the job we wanted to do when we applied!
CHOCKS AWAY!

 

[M_for_Mother]

Yeah, but you can't deny for a moment that you didn't enjoy the debate? If anything is going to get more RAF guys interested in this site its a chance to slag off the Ruperts - it certainly beats highbrow threads like, 'what Cartoon Character would you like to sh@g?'.

Admit it, you lot loved it!

MFM

p.s Jeff, the term 'Rupert' is a nickname for an Officer - not an airman, so unless I have misread your post, you ain't a Rupert. x

 

[sausage2]

p.s Jeff, the term 'Rupert' is a nickname for an Officer - not an airman, so unless I have misread your post, you ain't a Rupert. x

M you really are a tit. I'd suggest that Jeff from reading his post and looking at his profile is an officer and therfore a rupert.

Now i'm not an officer and i worked that out, so you must be one of those that slipped through the system. Cock

Oh and there is nothing wrong in wanting to shag cartoon characters, any one who doesn't is gay

 

[chiprafp]

Ok Gents lets leave the personal insults at the door shall we? Just like the rules state! We all know how much I like rules

 

[sausage2]

Chip, when blokes come out with cr@p like this they need berating and belittleing, and I feel it is my duty to do this,

 

[chiprafp]

Fair one but as Wobbly has suggested please take it private. We want people to know they can use the community without fear of being publically attacked. I disagree with a lot of people but its best to have those discussions via private messages.

 

[sausage2]

And wobbly can do one as well

 

[jeff]

Doh!

Doh!

Yeah, but you can't deny for a moment that you didn't enjoy the debate? If anything is going to get more RAF guys interested in this site its a chance to slag off the Ruperts - it certainly beats highbrow threads like, 'what Cartoon Character would you like to sh@g?'.

Admit it, you lot loved it!

MFM

p.s Jeff, the term 'Rupert' is a nickname for an Officer - not an airman, so unless I have misread your post, you ain't a Rupert. x

From your chat M, I reckon that you are an engineer. But its fair to say that you are never going to a rocket scientist!
That said mate - I am not offended, and I hope you never felt my post was offensive. I agree that everyone is entitled to their opinion.
Keep posting son, and don't let 'em get you down!

Toodle ooo old boy!

PS Leela from Futurama! One eyed kinkyness. OH YEAH!

 

[Plumber]

Ok M lets get a few things straight shall we.

I have nothing against officers, I've lived with one for the last three years. I also have plenty of neighbours who range from a ACM and a AVM and other higher echelon ranks. Most of them I socialise and get on very well with. I even go sailing with one of them and drink with most of the others. I tend to avoid the ones with the over inflated sense of self importance like yourself.

As for setting the world alight, your right I never will. I'm just not that way inclined. I get much more satisfaction from my weekend/mid week activities such as taking people with disabilities sailing for a couple of hours and dependant on the severity of the disability instructing them to the point of being a competent sailor. To see the look of sheer delight on the faces of these people before during and after a session is priceless and worth so much more than any recognition you could recieve for it. No I don't want my name in lights working behind the scenes and bringing a ray of sunshine into someone elses life is more my thing.

By the way learning how to sail and then instruct others within the year is not sitting in your comfort zone. If you don't believe me try it. Like many other things I've done in my life being out of my comfort zone is not any thing new to me.

Now heres an idea (you can steal it and make it your own if you like, I won't mind) if you want to talk about Junior Officers Command Courses and the like, Why not just start a new thread? Believe me I won't bother looking at it I've already been bored to tears by it several times over. As I'm sure most people will find out after the first couple of posts.

Now as for starting from humble beginnings, There's alot more to be said for the man who starts from the bottom and climbs the ladder than the guy who starts higher up but goes no further.

Anyway take care of yourself, and try not to upset too many of the hairy ar5ed gits who work for you.

 

[rest have risen above me]

Setting the World Alight

Setting the World Alight

Being a good airman who is able to interpret the wishes of our superiors and carry out their directives. I have just spent a few days trying to set the world alight. The Paris police didn't like it though.........

 

[Stax]

I will admit to having a pop at M but I have to agree with him it certainly got people involved. There were some folk who really took his comments to heart and had to point out that "they didn't want to take commisions" even though "they were pushed towards it" and "you are obviously failed aircrew" although they have to admit they don't actually know anything about him. I enjoy E-Goat because we can get away with starting threads ranging from Japanese Anime through to the state of the Fighter Controllers trade. The Arrse web site does have an "Officers forum" but I don't think we need one because as Plumber suggests, its easy enough to start a thread. Now I'm a northerner and as far as I'm concerned all southern, shandy drinking, chinless, nancy boys should be castrated in order that they are kept from interbreeding, but I uphold their right to say what they want when they want! Right on brothers and sisters! Burn Paris Burn!

 

[wobbly]

Well, i've been away for a few days and all this kicks off. In my opinion an Officers forum would not only seperate the community, but cause a lot of hassle. The nice thing about e-goat is that it brings all ranks together without having any of that 'rank thing' involved.

Some people may hold back on saying what they really meant if they knew the person they were talking to was an officer.......unless your stax that is .

Can I ask out of interest if we have a forum for your branch/trade?

Highly educated and wealthy as you may be, you still started this thread in the wrong forum (Try Problems or suggestions)

Moved to correct forum ......

 

[chiprafp]

Ahhhhhh it can all calm down again now he who must not be named has returned!

 

[A CLING NERD SHRON]

Well that killed that off. Just thought I would bring it back to get some healthy debate going again.

 

[North Sea Tiger]

Just read this thread from the start ..

There seems to be some seriously strong opinions going on !!

Now I am a civvy I can say that I worked for and with some excellent officers and some guys who I doubt could find their backside with both hands and help.

Personally I would like to meet some of the stuck up gimps who talked down to me in the past .. I would put a trips wages on the fact that these individuals wouldnt be half as cocky ..

I say let the officers have their forum .. who cares.

And for serving Officers .. your guys do talk about you and what you think its about is probably true !! .. but the best guys I worked for and with looked at the person first and the rank slide second .. whats the saying ?? .. you can catch more flies with honey than you will with vinegar.

Just a thought.

 

[Wg Cdr ComfeyChair-Smyth]

My, My, six weeks away and this place goes to rack and ruin . I personally do not think that it is an unreasonable request to have an Officers Forum. Additionally I do not think that it would seperate or devide the RAF Community on E-Goat as has been expressed. An Example here is the OPS Bods forums, now this forum has out of the many been used on the whole for what it was intended - discussing the relevent trade. I can honestly say that I don not understand the majority of what they are rattling on about, but I have read through and have actually learned snippets from what was basically a blinkered view as to what thier role within the airforce was. If we were to implement a forum that was for officers, yes - predominantly officers would use that forum, but it would also enable you to voice your opinions about topics raised that would be also read by officers. We get this "No one listens" when we have something to say, yet we pass our concerns through the chain of command, and a good Idea is muted by the weekest linkk who has'nt got the balls to challange the next level.

Without fear of repercussion - and hopefully in a civilised manner we would be able to interject on subjects that usually are discussed at levels above our pay grade, therefore affecting change. I know its and Idealised, utopian idea, but heyho you never know.

Initailly I found that MFM's request was light hearted and self ridiculing against officers, and he didnt come across big headed or arrogant, I do note that his tone changed when an unprompted tirade was directed towards him, justifiably so. If people want to start slagging individuals off try PM's because banter is banter but directed abuse is against our rules and quite frankly reduces this forum to a bitching contest, one that too many people have put alot of effort into to provide a facility, so that people can air their views.

Thanks for ya time WCC-S