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Met Police Again ...

Vushtrri

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grumpyoldb said:
I couldn't give a fcuk what intitials you give to what your duties are. If you wish to speak to the public, speak fcuking english.
I was trying to protect a member of the public, who was being attacked in public, and the police "FAILED" to attend. Yes, FAILED to attend.

Yet again police officers Fail in their duties.
You deserve to have the lack of public respect.

Now fcuk off back into your kennel.
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Alright I shall ask in simple terms....

Why did they fail to attend?

What duty were these 22 officers on when you saw them the following day..regardless of whether or not they were eating?.

Were they on shift the night before when your wife had reason to call the Police?

How many officers were on shift the night before on response duties.....and what were they doing at the time...were they tied up on other 999 calls?

If you can come up with concrete evidence that somewhere in the divison there was an officer on response duties sat with their thumb up their arse who couldn't be arsed turning out to the call I will agree that you have a valid excuse for slagging off that copper on the beat.

If however you can't I suggest your criticisms be directed towards the senior police management who have taken many officers away from response duties.


Don't get me wrong Grumpyoldb I do have sympathy with you and your wife and I agree that on a number of occasions the Police DO fail just like any other organisation,.......but I will also say that the generalisation in the criticisms of the Police through ignorance **** me off no end as they always seem to be aimed at the officer on the beat...whom it appears nowadays are the minority. I count myself lucky as I am due to retire soon as I have no time for the management of today who I feel fail both the public and their own officers alike on many occasion.but as I have said before I shall always stand up for the bobby on the beat as it is the ****tiest job in the police that invariably bares the brunt of most peoples criticisms as they are in the firing line..

So I would be obliged if you would stop generalising and consider the reasons for officers actions / inactions...

.and is there really any need to be abusive?
 
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grumpyoldb

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Sorry mate. Didn't to be abusive towards you personally.
This thread seems to prove to me that our police force don't seem to think that they can do any wrong, and that is the problem.

I'll stay out of this thread now as the subject is getting on my t!ts.
 
Vushtrri

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..and mine also so I shall sign out of the thread with a request that if anyone has any gripes about the police please do not generalise...take it up with the officer concerned or if you have any gripes about a lack of response or a procedure take it up with the bosses in charge of that particular division.... you have my backing to complain about those sitting on their fat arses in their Ivory Towers at HQ!.
 
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Dave-exfairy

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Vushtrri said:
..and mine also so I shall sign out of the thread with a request that if anyone has any gripes about the police please do not generalise...take it up with the officer concerned or if you have any gripes about a lack of response or a procedure take it up with the bosses in charge of that particular division.... you have my backing to complain about those sitting on their fat arses in their Ivory Towers at HQ!.
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You sure you want to be retiring? Can I have you for my Insp please?:pDT_Xtremez_30:
 
Vushtrri

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No......there is a hot sandy place awaiting me...

There is life outside!.....and please look after my son in law with your lot!
 
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Dave-exfairy

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Vushtrri said:
No......there is a hot sandy place awaiting me...

There is life outside!.....and please look after my son in law with your lot!
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There's life? Where? SHOW ME!!!! I'm busy trying to protect my own backside from a newly promoted skipper with 2 years in the job. God save us from wonderidiots.
 
Vushtrri

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Alright..I said I would post no more but odds on the cause of death is given as
1a Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm
1b Coronary Artery Atherosclerosis
1c Ischaemic Heart Disease

2 Being in the wrong place at the wrong time

Now let's see what the powers that be decide..
 
Talk Wrench

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From todays Telegraph online,


A spokesman for the Independent Police Complaints Commissioner said: "Following the initial results of the second post mortem, a Metropolitan Police Officer has been interviewed under caution for the offence of manslaughter as part of an on-going inquiry into the death of Ian Tomlinson."




The full article is here.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...-police-office-faces-manslaughter-charge.html

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Ex-Bay

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Oh, dear. Now we hear that Ian Thomlinson died "of an internal haemorage" after a second post mortem. Expert on TV tonight reckoned it's going to have to be proven that the haemorrhage was a direct result of the blow /push /fall and that's not going to be easy (particularly if the story of his being an alcoholic etc., are true).

However, I cannot get my head round the problem that any Police in similar situations will find these days. There's going to be some photog out there just to catch the action, and the modern phone with it's digital camera can be used in any way you want. journos want a story with action pics and any 'organiser' and his team are going to be joined by some militant twerps hell bent on trouble. Is there something that the feds can do about it? I doubt it, but it behoves any copper to ensure he's definitely in the right before taking a similar action.

And then, of course there's the protesters. They'll have cameras for exactly the same reason (to embarrass the Police).

It's good to realise that the copper concerned came forward, so I think that might indicate a certain "lack of ill will" in his actions (let's face it; ones "slow mover" is another's distraction for other action). If the feds had kept a low profile, the papers would have been full of "the police did nothing" and similar squawks.

They just cannot win.


PS. Could it be that the copper who did the pushing was trying to get Mr T. away from an excited dog & handler ?
It's one impression I got from the video footage.
 
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flymandy

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Cause Of Death

Cause Of Death

My money is firmly on

1a. Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm, a pie eater's time bomb. My friend Antony (RIP) dropped down dead with one.


Medically, its where the side wall of the mother of all arteries develops a bulge and then blows inder pressure: Like the tyre on a White Fleet modeo when you clip a pedestrian island "airside"

I've done resus on loads of "? Heart attack" collapses which when you put the defib on them shows PEA / EMD, (pulseless electrical activity / electro-mechanical dissasoscition) because the poor blighter has literally emptied the contents of their blood stream into their belly and their poor heart hasnt stopped twitcihng yet.

I have never done a traumatic AAA, and whilst the copper may have given him a hefty shove he didn't apply the force of say, a car hitting a motorway parapet at 40MPH.

I don't advocate police death squads, but did anyone ask the protesters to go and be there?
 
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flymandy said:
My money is firmly on

1a. Abdominal Aortic Aneurysm, a pie eater's time bomb.

Medically, its where the side wall of the mother of all arteries develops a bulge and then blows inder pressure: Like the tyre on a White Fleet modeo when you clip a pedestrian island "airside"

I have never done a traumatic AAA, and whilst the copper may have given him a hefty shove he didn't apply the force of say, a car hitting a motorway parapet at 40MPH.

I don't advocate police death squads, but did anyone ask the protesters to go and be there?
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Is this aneurysm the only "internal bleeding" to cause death?
I mean this as opposed to an ulcer bursting 'in' so the gut gets filled with blood (been there, done that).
 
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Talk Wrench said:
It's gone very quiet on the Police side of this discussion (There's work to be done and what's the point when people seem to have made their minds up already?) . It's gone very quiet on the side of the others, including myself!


Reported in todays Telegraph online.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...primanded-about-his-professional-conduct.html


Whilst I would like to detract people from the headline itself, please take a look at the picture that accompanies the article.

TW
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What about the picture that accompanies the article?
 
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Forest

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After chatting to a memeber of the London Ambulance Service, it also transpired that the "Peacefull protesters" blocked the ambulance in getting to the injured man........

They obviously saw it as a symbol of capitolist oppresion run by the evil state.

And now even more hard done by protesters are starting to come out of the wood work...

Sorry but it makes my blood boil. The police have a hard enough job at the best of times. These people on the streets were there to protest, fair enough but what do you expect when the criminal/violent element of these protesters hide amongst the law abiding. How are the police supposed to differenciate?

I would back the police 100%

If you dont want a confrontation with the police, then dont join marches that have a history of mindless violence!
 
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