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raflad67

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So what do we reckon about even more WO and FS going and no Sgt's? I am a little surprised although I think there are a few exiting over the coming years anyway.....

...and Promotion to WO and FS is more than originally thought too...:S
 
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Same here. Whilst in the past, I was always happy for a bit of redundancy to open up promotion; we usually had enough volunteers. This time, with compulsory redundancies, I'm surprised that promotion has been so buoyant, surely losing 20% of our WOs would stop promotion.

Makes you think if we've actually lost the posts yet; in which case expect a much slower promotion trickle in the next few years.
 

Humble Scribe

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Considering that the letter sent by the TS (or BS) not so long ago identified quite a few Sgt & Cpl posts to be 'lost' there are quite a few puzzled faces around by the ommission of Sgt's & Cpl's from the redundancy list. I can only assume many will be lost through natural wastage and PVR! Not that surprised with WO & FS's but the numbers were higher than I thought they might be; not looking forward to 12 Jun!
 

muttywhitedog

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It raised more than an eyebrow at Mutty Towers!

However, I was told that they are targetting the WOs & FSs to give those further down the food chain something to stay in for - apparently very few of these posts are actually being disestablished and will be filled by promotees.

My source was someone who is paid to know things like this!

So, for those with aspirations to reach FS & beyond, todays announcement has increased your chances. For those of us that had pretty much spent their redundancy pot in their head, there's little left to look forward to apart from bi-annual fitness tests and increased DWRs!
 
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It raised more than an eyebrow at Mutty Towers!

However, I was told that they are targetting the WOs & FSs to give those further down the food chain something to stay in for - apparently very few of these posts are actually being disestablished and will be filled by promotees.

My source was someone who is paid to know things like this!

So, for those with aspirations to reach FS & beyond, todays announcement has increased your chances. For those of us that had pretty much spent their redundancy pot in their head, there's little left to look forward to apart from bi-annual fitness tests and increased DWRs!

Tell you what Mutty, if I was a compulsory FS or WO, and then found out that they had not disestablished as many posts as they had made redundant, I would not be happy. It begs the questions, is it redundancy or the sack??
 

raflad67

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Tell you what Mutty, if I was a compulsory FS or WO, and then found out that they had not disestablished as many posts as they had made redundant, I would not be happy. It begs the questions, is it redundancy or the sack??

Took the words out of my mouth...but then again as if we could 'prove' anything....!

:pDT_Xtremez_06:
 

KingGuin

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Took the words out of my mouth...but then again as if we could 'prove' anything....!

:pDT_Xtremez_06:

And once again we find ourselves wondering about a lack of transparency.......oh well jump or be pushed; 6 weeks to Deal or No Deal.
 
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Took the words out of my mouth...but then again as if we could 'prove' anything....!

:pDT_Xtremez_06:

Have to agree with you. Like I said, in the past, we always had volunteers so it was never a problem. I suppose a FOI question come 2015 would be the way ahead, to see just how many WO/FSs we had pre redundancy and post redundancy. If the difference per rank is less than the figure made redundant then I suppose you could presume you were sacked. Pure speculation though :pDT_Xtremez_27:
 

muttywhitedog

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I'm sure if you took the numbers of WOs & FSs that will no longer be based at Leuchars, Cottesmore, Kinloss and Lyneham, then you'll have a reduction that would be used in any FOI Request. What it seems to me is that they have chopped them immediately (10 of each went on 1 Sep), and will then chop again at the odd post, whilst disregarding that there will also be natural wastage between now and 2015.

I was also told today that they had reached No 7 or 8 on the FS-WO board already (apparently this is quite rare), and the future is bright for those remaining!

Still bloody dark in Mutty Towers though!
 

duffman

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Just to barge in for a sec, I was surprised how many of your zobs they are gunning for, seemed like a hell of alot to me, over 100+. Even if it's the biggest zob branch that's some number.
 

Cooheed

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And once again we find ourselves wondering about a lack of transparency.......oh well jump or be pushed; 6 weeks to Deal or No Deal.

My thoughts too. Oh well, hope you are ok Big lad and get what you wish for :pDT_Xtremez_26:
 

Noidea

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For the zobs it is the combined branch, so the vast majority will be trainers and phys edders. No loss
 

CodeMonkey

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My thoughts too. Oh well, hope you are ok Big lad and get what you wish for :pDT_Xtremez_26:

The last round demonstrated how opaque the criteria were.

After getting ping i asked why i had a skill score of zero, turns out they only considered first line q's for TG1. I have no doubt in my mind they will do the same this time and this time the brackets are a sh1t load wider
 
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Anything to do with reaching an ex drafter who appeared on the PSB?

What, are you mad? God forbid the integrity of our Manning TG17 be questioned in such distain. Would I think for one moment they would 'bend' the rules or push the boundaries to help one of their own? Fcukin dead right I would!!!!!
 

Barch

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What, are you mad? God forbid the integrity of our Manning TG17 be questioned in such distain. Would I think for one moment they would 'bend' the rules or push the boundaries to help one of their own? Fcukin dead right I would!!!!!

Are you on drugs you pillock, do you think that on he RFP it is purely made up of TG17, well it isn't, there are several trades represented. If you are really so stupid to think that there is any rule bending going on then you should seriously have a word with yourself!!!!!!!!!!!stfu

I think you may have misread his post.
 

CodeMonkey

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That is a load of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry if you think it's a load of crap i'm speaking purely from my point of view being TG1.

The list of Q's sent to me focused on what was valid for TG1 and personally i couldn't give a toss if you think what i say is rubbish. All of my workplace saw the emails(direct from manning) including management who then had to go to the trade sponsor and ask that weighting be given to our specialist Q's. This also happened to TEMPEST. So in this case wind your neck in.
 

raflad67

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Sorry if you think it's a load of crap i'm speaking purely from my point of view being TG1.

The list of Q's sent to me focused on what was valid for TG1 and personally i couldn't give a toss if you think what i say is rubbish. All of my workplace saw the emails(direct from manning) including management who then had to go to the trade sponsor and ask that weighting be given to our specialist Q's. This also happened to TEMPEST. So in this case wind your neck in.

WTF are you doing here if your are TG1?

Last time I looked I opened this thread on my own TG page!
 
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