Interesting post on arrse....

[firestorm]

http://www.arrse.co.uk/cpgn2/Forums/viewtopic/t=36472/highlight=firefighters.html

 

[metimmee]

Hehe, they dont think much of us Crabs do they! Nice to see a bit of moderation from some of the Army types though.

The first thing I thought when I saw the pouches was that some squipper was on the make.

 

[Oh sir]

Bloody hell! RAF Firemen get a right roasing there don't they? And the worst bit is...... The original photo isn't even of firemen so it's undeserved! Where did they get that info from? (The original pic is pretty funny mind, only a shiney WRAF or Oggie would block up his or her ejection port like that!..... maybe?)

AND for God's sake us poor old scuffers get a kicking in the process! (Well no surprise coming from ARRSe!)

My god, at least we (RAF) all have a chance of getting a job when we come out.

(Job hanging outside MacDonalds whilst pished asking for change while growing a spew stained beard not included, ARRSErs!)

I'm hereby starting a campaign to highlight the stupidity and illiteracy in the Army... Who's with me?
Anyone?

Oh bugger. At least I tried!

OhSir!

 

[Albert Park]

Bloody hell! RAF Firemen get a right roasing there don't they? And the worst bit is...... The original photo isn't even of firemen so it's undeserved! Where did they get that info from? (The original pic is pretty funny mind, only a shiney WRAF or Oggie would block up his or her ejection port like that!..... maybe?)

AND for God's sake us poor old scuffers get a kicking in the process! (Well no surprise coming from ARRSe!)

My god, at least we (RAF) all have a chance of getting a job when we come out.

(Job hanging outside MacDonalds whilst pished asking for change while growing a spew stained beard not included, ARRSErs!)

I'm hereby starting a campaign to highlight the stupidity and illiteracy in the Army... Who's with me?
Anyone?

Oh bugger. At least I tried!

OhSir!

Who's with you? The majority of the knuckle-draggers on ARRSE are doing a bloody good job.

I did Op Fiasco with the grunts at Imphal Barracks, in York. Thick as fuuckin' pig$hit, most of 'em.

 

[Oh sir]

Who's with you? The majority of the knuckle-draggers on ARRSE are doing a bloody good job.

I did Op Fiasco with the grunts at Imphal Barracks, in York. Thick as fuuckin' pig$hit, most of 'em.

So does that make you with me or against me?

I still can't work it out!

I'm on the side of decent RAF Firemen everywhere.
I'm also against every thick army grunt who decides that he is worth more than the average piece of BZN baggage. Just because he has done FRESCO. At the end of the day, who hasn't?

OhSir!

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

These the same thick Army grunts on the ground in Maysan Province, Basrah and in Hemland? You fancy a few walks around downtown Basrah? Don't think you will get much support here softlad.

Nothing better than a copper digging himself a hole now is there?

With the amount of Arrsers coming on here, me thinks you will soon have a new arrsehole chewed

P.S don't tell me you are SY guy at BZN DT_Xtremez_32:

 

[Albert Park]

So does that make you with me or against me?

I still can't work it out!

I'm on the side of decent RAF Firemen everywhere.
I'm also against every thick army grunt who decides that he is worth more than the average piece of BZN baggage. Just because he has done FRESCO. At the end of the day, who hasn't?

OhSir!

I will spell it out. I neither agree or disagree with you. All I am saying is that the Army are doing a good job of proving illiteracy by the standard and content of their posts on ARRSE.

As far as Fiasco goes - if you want name, rank and number of those who didn't partake then give PMA a call. The reason it was mentioned is because it is relevant to the argument of the Army being dull, in general.

You're not very good at this, are you? Are you deliberately dull, just to get responses? You're not in the Army, are you?

p.s. I've noticed on other posts that you're getting a bit brave with your insults. Try a bit harder, son.

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

Albert, with his mention of Baggage at Bzn, Ill have a tenner on him being ATSY. He is probably cataloguing all his Evian bottles and sniff testing them.

 

[chiprafp]

Sir Salty You really dont like any copper at all do you? Well atleast it seems that way from every post you have ever put on here about a copper.

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

Chip, I don't have a problem with coppers; in fact I have a good working relationship with the coppers here.

What fecks me off is uninformed comments like those that 'oh sir' has thrown out. If he is out to do some flaming then go for it, but I just found his comments bollox

Edited to add: I have just checked every post I have made on here, until this thread came along I have never commented on RAFP. Now Chip, when you make your apology try and not grovel too much but try and mean it!
DT_Xtremez_19:

 

[skevans]

Bloody hell! RAF Firemen get a right roasing there don't they? And the worst bit is...... The original photo isn't even of firemen so it's undeserved! Where did they get that info from? (The original pic is pretty funny mind, only a shiney WRAF or Oggie would block up his or her ejection port like that!..... maybe?)
OhSir!

I have just posted this on arse, I will repost it here. I apologise to those that have read some of the lines elsewhere (volleyball thread), copy and paste can be good at times!

Firstly can I begin by saying that I don't go in for the whole trade bashing routine. Aunie Bettie employs us all to do a job, which is obviously still relevant to the armed forces of today. If our own individual trades were no longer relevant then they would have gone the way of the copperwrights, wheelwrights and sailmakers of the past.

I am a serving Watch Commander in the RAF Fire Service

Whilst I can't claim that the RAF Fire Service is the busiest fire service in the UK, I think most of you tend to get the wrong idea about us.

Are you aware that if an aircraft crashes, or catches fire, anywhere on the airfield we have only two minutes to deploy, and a further one minute to make survivable conditions?

If an aircraft is still alight after three minutes there is no hope of survival for anyone on board. This is one of the key reasons why we appear to do very little during flying hours, there is very little we can do that wont affect our response time!

And so yes, we do play volleyball! there is only so much that we can do, can you imagine trying to play football in fire kit and boots!

And what happens after the flying commitment is over... routine servicing of station based resources and endless training so that we do get it right when we are needed. How many other RAF trades can honestly say that they exceed the mandatory 20 hours a month of trade training? or even reach the 20 hours at all?

Like all trades, we have our kids straight from the factory at Manston, and unlike most trades its easy to say who they are and where they work when they make a t^t out of themselves, unfortunately that is a cross that we have to bear as one of the most distinctive trades in the RAF. Every trade in every branch of the armed forces has the same cross to bear also.

A few years ago a station commander of mine insisted that the whole staton took part in a mass 'work experience' program so we all understood each others roles more. We had very few people want to work alongside us and undergo training at 20:00 and later, however those that did take part understood a little more about why we are here, and what we do. Why dont you contact your own RAF fire service and see about doing the same?

Many people in the armed forces never get to do what everyone else thinks they should be doing, but we are all doing our bit in our own trades. This is why I don't get involved with trade bashing, you never know when I may need to call on your services, and vice versa.

As for the photo. Yes They are RAF firefighters. I have served alongside three of them personally. I can't explain the pouches, and I can't justify them either. Like most of you, I think that the position they are in will affect the workings of the rifle, and are therefore more of a danger to the operator, rather than an effective aid. I stand to be corrected however.

Perhaps a little background on the photo might help. We have recently changed our Trade Sponsor, for those that don't know this is the senior officer who overseas the policy and direction of each trade. Our previous TS was a clueless moron. He took the role because it guarantees promotion, and in my opinion has done nothing for the betterment of the trade. He did however, spend a great deal of time emphasising the old adage of 'warfighter first, specialist second'.

It is worth noting that this publicity shot was taken within his last few weeks as TS. In my opinion it smacks of him trying to justify the last two years he has been screwing the trade around. Let's also remember that this is a publicity shot, meaning that it has been set up for reasons that only our PR brethren will understand, and is being marketted for PR and recruitment purposes. I know that this photo was taken at least two weeks after the events it is linked to. I know this because the Flt Sgt (extreme right) was still at the RAF Regiment Depot on embarkation leave at the time of the events and didn't deploy for another two weeks.

Most of us don't really care a great deal for becoming 'infantry'. In fact on most stations your average firefighter will, unless deployed, only handle the rifle once a year for a few hours on CCS. IMHO I don't think that they have deliberately tried to impress people into being something they are not i.e infantry. But they may have been told to give that impression.

Tamecrab - the incident you refer to is briefly mentioned here news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2460271.stm

and in more detail on this page (about 1/4 of the way down)
www.raf.mod.uk/ptc/archive02.html

I expect that pleanty of people will now add a load of posts regarding my trade as nothing but homosexual walts. That is of course your opinion and you are entitled to it, as I am to mine

 

[chiprafp]

Sir Salty you are indeed correct I have mistaken you for another member in my haste to post and I apologise.DT_Xtremez_28:

 

[skevans]

For those that aren't aware here is the official version

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/D...ns/RafFirefightersSeizeDrugsInAfghanistan.htm

 

[The Green Scopie]

Skevans,

As a previous underground dweller I was quite happy knowing that the Fire Section was about 50m from the entrance. Filled with guys ready to run down and pull me out should the worst happen.

One thing I have come to realise about Pongos is that they mock what they do not understand. Hope the education works.

 

[skevans]

Thanks scopie, You probably didn't mean to make my day, but you have anyway.

 

[toot]

Dear skevans, always one for a good yarn ( yawn )
Tell the world your nickname from olden times!! Yes its Jackanory!!!

 

[Oh sir]

Thanks for a good, and enlightening post Skevs.

I had made the mistake of assuming that RAF Firefighters would never strap a pouch on that bit of their bang sticks.
My mistake: Never assume!

Anyway, sorry for any offence. None was intended, we get enough of that on ARRSe!

 

[skevans]

sorry for any offence. None was intended

I never take offence, and I never mean offence. I just post my own humble opinion.

*Adjusts halo*

In person I can be a right ar$e though !

 

[Kiwistacker]

I had one of those pouches in Afghanistan, you can put it on your gat in a place where it won't get in the way, on the butt. Choice was:
a, carry all your webbing and your gnu
b, buy a pouch and leave all your webbing at work/in tent.

Who is the thick Focker now then? Army Chods!

 

[Kiwistacker]

Oh and I called it a gnu on purpose, I am not litratea.