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I understand what your saying there Harry. I have been told by a few guys now that B3 is the future and I should be looking to lift my limitations asap. As far as Cat A goes, what do I have to do to get Cat A? I thought B2 B1's where to a higher level than Cat A? Oh and If anyone knows of anyone looking to take on an unlicensed guy with 12 yrs RAF experience and eager to please ( Non Sexually :) then please let me know. Im out 12 th Feb next year. Cheers

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I have been told by a few guys now that B3 is the future and I should be looking to lift my limitations asap............

Rasher


I hope you are not gonna quote what someone came out with a few weeks ago, that a B3 is the new licence for those who hold B1 and B2 tickets :pDT_Xtremez_42:

People seem to be talking a lot about B3 because EASA are proposing this new category to help pull people into the GA side of flying because of SEVERE shortage in this field.

The entry requirements for training will be lower than that of B1 or B2 but that is to reflect the lower complexity of GA light aircraft. EASA currently classify a light aircraft as piston-engined non- pressurized aeroplanes of 2000 Kg MTOM and below. This does not include helicopters. Those with B1.2 will be unaffected and will be able to work up or down the weight cats

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Nope Talk Wrench

I have just been told that being a B2 is not enough as eventually everyone will be B1 + B2 (I didnt know anything about B3 being a new EASA License) Just another way of saying B1 + B2. I personally come from a Fairy/Leckie background and hate the thought of heavy work as it dosn't interest me but eventually I dont think I will have a choice. Cheers

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I hope you are not gonna quote what someone came out with a few weeks ago, that a B3 is the new licence for those who hold B1 and B2 tickets :pDT_Xtremez_42:



TW

(I didnt know anything about B3 being a new EASA License) Just another way of saying B1 + B2.

Rasher



DOH!!:pDT_Xtremez_35:



Try reading up on license requirements and categories. It will help you to know what you are trying achieve.

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=777

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Rumoured titles for B3 Licences:-

EASA B3 = In-Flight Entertainment Systems (IFE) They need tighter control of this because of the cabin safety implications (safety and security requirements)

MAOS B3 = Armourers? Probably to make armourers feel like they're qualified for something - even though its only bangs, bombs 'n' bullets. (awww...isnt it a shame? Poor things. - somebody give 'em a banana.)
 

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Rumoured titles for B3 Licences:-

EASA B3 = In-Flight Entertainment Systems (IFE) They need tighter control of this because of the cabin safety implications (safety and security requirements)

MAOS B3 = Armourers? Probably to make armourers feel like they're qualified for something - even though its only bangs, bombs 'n' bullets. (awww...isnt it a shame? Poor things. - somebody give 'em a banana.)



Off TopicArmourers are qualified for plenty of things, mostly drinking their own p1ss and eating their own sh1t! :pDT_Xtremez_17:Off Topic
 

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Rumoured titles for B3 Licences:-

EASA B3 = In-Flight Entertainment Systems (IFE) They need tighter control of this because of the cabin safety implications (safety and security requirements)

The presentation on the EASA website and others point towards B3 being primarily aimed at the GA side of things. However, looking a little deeper, a push towards a B3 cat to include IFE work makes sense. Particularly with the complexity of the new AVOD systems and the integration of the networks to the aircraft systems.

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As far as Cat A goes, what do I have to do to get Cat A?

Have a good look at the link TW has provided. Pay particular attention to section G, it lists the requirements for extending licence privileges to include another category. You will need modules 7, 11, 15 and 17 in part or full.
 
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DOH!!:pDT_Xtremez_35:



Try reading up on license requirements and categories. It will help you to know what you are trying achieve.

http://www.caa.co.uk/default.aspx?catid=177&pagetype=68&gid=777

TW

Thanks TW

Actually Im 100 % sure what im trying to achieve mate. Im studying towards B2 as thats where my background is. But I appreciate you pointing out my naivety. Just wasn't sure I needed Cat A but I may just go the whole hog and get my B1 next year also, in the meantime, its 1 day at a time and B2 first. Cheers
 

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Thanks TW

Actually Im 100 % sure what im trying to achieve mate. Im studying towards B2 as thats where my background is. But I appreciate you pointing out my naivety. Just wasn't sure I needed Cat A but I may just go the whole hog and get my B1 next year also, in the meantime, its 1 day at a time and B2 first. Cheers

You're not naive mate and I'm sorry if that's what my posts made you think. It was just the comments about B3 that made me laugh and I think you missed my point somewhat. (read through the posts again and I think it will raise a smile from you too.)

But the link is absolute top notch and you will find it very useful. Bookmark it on your computer and keep referring to it.

Good luck with your studies and impending civviedom!!



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Just a quick question for a friend (no really) what level is the maths and science at in civvy licences. HNC/degree/ONC ? Thanks.
 
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Just a quick question for a friend (no really) what level is the maths and science at in civvy licences. HNC/degree/ONC ? Thanks.

Not that high, probably ONC but no calculus. It's all multi-guess but the thing that makes it difficult is the time constraints and a 75% pass mark.
My opinion is, if you could pass a fitters course then you could pass your licence modules.
 

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Maths is probably nearer (what I understood as) "A" level maths.
Don't forget that the Licences are aimed at those joining an apprenticeship / airline.

Any Degree qualification in/from formal aeronautical courses/colleges is not necessarily part of the Licence syllabus.
 

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ONC was harder..



Than A level maths or the maths module/s?

These are typical EASA mod 1 questions.. If this is A level stuff, well....

(ripped from AirMech, taken out the questions that the formula wasn't converted properly via Word)

1. What is the tangent of 90 degrees?
a) Positive infinity
b)Negative infinity
c)0

2.A cuboid has dimensions of 4 cm, 6cm and 12 cm. What is its volume?
a) 2.88 m3
b)0.028 m3
c) 0.000288m3

3.Work out the following sum: 4 {2 (5 – 1) – 3} + 8
a) 37
b)28
c) 54


4.100000 in binary is what number in decimal?
a) 16
b)32
c)64


5. D in hexidecimal is what number in decimal?
a) 8
b)13
c) 17

6. In the following equation what is the y-intercept?
4y = 2x +8
a) 4
b)2
c)8

7.Two angles of a triangle are 68 degree and 32 degree. Therefore the third angle
must be
a) 63o
b)114o
c) 80o

8. Solve the following equation to find x
4x + 8y = 64
2x – 8y = 86

a) 5
b)25
c)125

10. 101012 + 110012 =
a) 462
b)468
c) 4610


1. Which of the following formulae are correct for the triangle shown?

a) C2 = A2 + B2
b)B2 = C2 + A2
c) A2 = C2 + B2


2. A rectangle 11cm x 120cm. What is its area in m2
a) 1320
b)13.2
c) 0.132

3. What is 738 in binary coded decimal?
a) 111100010
b)1011110010
c) 11100111000


4. If a wheel of radius R revolves 1/2 a turn, how many radians does it
turn through?
a) 2p radians
b)p radians
c) 2R2 radians

5. If there are two similar angles in a right triangle, these angles are

a) complementary
b)supplementary
c) subordinate

6.The surface area of a cone whose flat is 10 cm and diameter is 8 cm
is
a) 80 p
b) 40 p
c) 120 p

7. (A + B)4 is (A + B)2
a) (A + B)2
b)A + B
c)(A + B)6

8. An equilateral triangle has
a) 2 equal sides
b)no equal sides
c)3 equal sides

10. 11/16 + 5/8 =
a) 55/128
b)21/16
c)10/11

1. Given 43 - x = 21, find the value of x
a) 43 - 21
b)43 + 21
c) 43 / 21

3. 7/6 can be expressed as
a) 2.6
b)1.6
c) 1.166

4. The ratio of 6:5 can be expressed as
a) 20 : 25
b)24 : 20
c) 10 : 16

5. 143 can be expressed as
a) 14 x 3
b)14 x 14 x 14
c) 14 + 14 + 14

6. 0.0000413 can be written as
a) 413 x 10-7
b)0.413 x 10-7
c) 4.13 x 10-7

7. 5/8 + 3/4 =
a) 11/4
b)11/8
c) 8/8

8. The LCD for the problem 1/6 + 1/5 + 1/17 + 1/2 is
a) 1020
b)17
c) 510

9. The formulae for calculating the area of a right angled triangle is
a) 1/2 height + base
b) 1/2 base / height
c) 1/2 (base x height)

10.The area of a circle whose circumference is given as 12cm is
approximately
a) 11.3 sq. cm
b)3.8 sq. cm
c)38 sq. cm

1. Area of a right circular cone is
a) p x r x l
b)(p x r x l) + 2 px r x r
c)2/3 (p x r x l)

2. log 9 - log 3 =
a) log 3
b)log 6
c) log 9

3. The three angles of a triangle summed together equal
a) 90°
b)180°
c) 360°

4. In a right-angled triangle the other two angles are both 45°. The
length of the opposite side can be calculated by
a) sin 45° x length of the hypotenuse side of the triangle
b)cos 45° x length of the adjacent side of the triangle
c) sin 45° x length of the adjacent side of the triangle

6. Calculate (+ 3) - (- 4)
a) -1
b)+7
c) -7

7. To convert imperial gallons to litres, multiply by
a) 4.5
b)5.4
c) 4.7

8. Express 9/20 as a percentage
a) 45 %
b)40 %
c) 47 %


9. To find the area of a circle, multiply
a) the square of the radius by p
b)the square of the circumference by the radius
c) twice the radius by p



10. How many centimetres is in an inch?
a) 25.4
b)0.254
c) 2.54

1. Make L the subject of the formulae 2pfL = x
a) L = 2pf
b)L = 2pf/x
c) L = x/2pf

2. Find the lowest common denominator of 6; 7; 8
a) 84
b)168
c) 336

It ain't "A Level" stuff. I got 88% for my Module 1 exam, my ONC and HNC results were about 60%..
 
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Not that high, probably ONC but no calculus. It's all multi-guess but the thing that makes it difficult is the time constraints and a 75% pass mark.
My opinion is, if you could pass a fitters course then you could pass your licence modules.

That statement is pretty much on the money. There is nothing difficult about passing the exams providing you are prepared to put the work in. I personally thought maths was a doddle compared to fitters course ONC and the physics based stuff was probably on a par with a bit extra thrown in. Mechanical guys tend to come unstuck with the electrical based modules (3&4) and the avionic module (5) as these can be very heavy going. Any subject that does not interest you also makes study that little bit harder. The air leg module (10) is of course a different ball game and you will be learning things that are totally alien.
 
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