RAF Engineering. Big changes planned.

[Light Blue Warrior]

Big changes ahead.

Avionics, Gen mech E and ICT to amalgamate into ONE trade.

Aircraft mechanical, Gen mech, workshops, Weapons and SES into ONE trade.

Playing with fire if you ask me.

 

[Rugby-Jock-Lad]

Friend of a friend of neighbour's cleaner?

Being talked about by delusional, unenlightened Powers that Be or purely Rumour?

 

[Barch]

Might as well just hand everything over to the Navy and Army and have done with it.

 

[Light Blue Warrior]

Friend of a friend of neighbour's cleaner?

Being talked about by delusional, unenlightened Powers that Be or purely Rumour?

When I signed up to this site, it clearly stated that it's a rumour site.

 

[Rugby-Jock-Lad]

When I signed up to this site, it clearly stated that it's a rumour site.

GOOD POINT!!! But can the rumour be substantiated?

 

[Light Blue Warrior]

GOOD POINT!!! But can the rumour be substantiated?

It most definitely has substance behind it and quite frankly, in my 25 years, never have I heard anything as stupid as this from those above us.

 

[unruly1986]

Sorry but this has to be a wind -up.

Possibly RAF 2050 but no where near workable at the moment.

 

[rest have risen above me]

Sorry but this has to be a wind -up.

Possibly RAF 2050 but no where near workable at the moment.

What do you mean I do most of them anyway. You can probably throw HR and Driver into the mix as well.

 

[Spearmint]

That's pretty much how the RN work.

AV's do Weapons, PFE and C4i and Programming

Mechs do GSE

Both tend to do workshops, Choc head etc. I think the PFE (SES) part is just a 2 week bolt on qualification.

 

[hobbes]

They amalgamated radar engineers with telephonists and called that a success, so this isn't a big surprise.

 

[vim_fuego]

Has a person who is already or destined to be an Armourer the aptitude to do all those skilled roles?

 

[Rigga]

So all the ground equipment is going to be upgraded by so much!?!?!?!

 

[ERT]

Half a story...

The idea was that all engineers join up, and get a common engineering training course. Following this, they then head off and specialize in that trade. This also allows personnel to move between trades, as they head back and complete the "bolt on" course.

So, imagine yourself in 2040...

We all rely upon contractors, not alot is actually fixed on site any more, its all modular changes. You are "down route", and an A Tech (Mech). You are servicing the A330 and your power set goes U/S. You get off the aircraft, fix the power set and get back onto the aircraft to carry on.

Some old folk will argue that this cant happen. But i suspect that an A Tech M, can fix a power set, with the correct training. Isn't it just a engine, a generator and a control system? If a Mech can change a wheel & brake pack on an aircraft, why cant they change it on a set of A/C Passenger Steps?

If all engineers get the same basic training, why cant a Squipper or a Gen Tech help out replacing an aircraft engine?

You get the idea....

Do more, work smarter, with less people..

 

[Rigga]

Half a story...

The idea was that all engineers join up, and get a common engineering training course. Following this, they then head off and specialize in that trade. This also allows personnel to move between trades, as they head back and complete the "bolt on" course.

So, imagine yourself in 2040...

We all rely upon contractors, not alot is actually fixed on site any more, its all modular changes. You are "down route", and an A Tech (Mech). You are servicing the A330 and your power set goes U/S. You get off the aircraft, fix the power set and get back onto the aircraft to carry on.

Some old folk will argue that this cant happen. But i suspect that an A Tech M, can fix a power set, with the correct training. Isn't it just a engine, a generator and a control system? If a Mech can change a wheel & brake pack on an aircraft, why cant they change it on a set of A/C Passenger Steps?

If all engineers get the same basic training, why cant a Squipper or a Gen Tech help out replacing an aircraft engine?

You get the idea....

Do more, work smarter, with less people..

Blurring of the lines - it wouldn't be long before a GE Fitter is asked (or even ordered) to fix an aeroplane...
This is also another reduction of responsibilities in maintenance. May as well give officers the training and cut out the troops.

 

[Rugby-Jock-Lad]

Blurring of the lines - it wouldn't be long before a GE Fitter is asked (or even ordered) to fix an aeroplane...
This is also another reduction of responsibilities in maintenance. May as well give officers the training and cut out the troops.

Now, now Rigga. You know that will never actually happen!! After all since Officers are effectively HR Administrators with an area of responsibility (Engineering Officer...er no...Admin Officer with a "responsibility" for Engineering) who don't want to take responsibility for their decisions they will still need some Urks to do the job (blame and absolve themselves of any poor decisions made). The fact that the number of Administrators will outnumber the overworked Urks, now that's another matter.....................

 

[4mastacker]

..Admin Officer with a "responsibility" for Engineering....................The fact that the number of Administrators will outnumber the overworked Urks, now that's another matter.....................

That worked well with the Air Cadets didn't it? A scribbly who was more concerned about being saluted and using Twitter to make herself look good, rather than making sure the gliders were airworthy. The only branch the scribblies are concerned about is their own - always been that way and always will be - they're the masters of branch self-preservation.

 

[Rigga]

“Erks” not Urks or Awks or Blerks.