Bike test

[zantola]

Hi all,

Just wondering how the heart rates are calculated for the bike test?

once a person reaches 85% then the test is automatically ended for "safety reasons" which is fair enough... but how does this relate to the persons body mass index?

eg. someone with a bmi of less than 20 vs. the same sex/age with bmi of over 25.... which will have the highest 85% heart rate?

or if any PTI's are viewing,

Male, 27 years old, height 174cm, waist 88cm, weight 76kg (BMI:- 25.1%)

vs.

Male, 27 years old, height 174cm, waist 88cm, weight 85kg (BMI:- 28.1%)

would the person with the lower BMI be expected to have a lower heart rate to pass?

Regards

Z

 

[Sospan]

Hi all,

Just wondering how the heart rates are calculated for the bike test?

once a person reaches 85% then the test is automatically ended for "safety reasons" which is fair enough... but how does this relate to the persons body mass index?

eg. someone with a bmi of less than 20 vs. the same sex/age with bmi of over 25.... which will have the highest 85% heart rate?

or if any PTI's are viewing,

Male, 27 years old, height 174cm, waist 88cm, weight 76kg (BMI:- 25.1%)

vs.

Male, 27 years old, height 174cm, waist 88cm, weight 85kg (BMI:- 28.1%)

would the person with the lower BMI be expected to have a lower heart rate to pass?

Regards

Z

I dont know the answer but if it helps the bike test is being replaced with the Rockport walk in 2011.

 

[zantola]

I have heard rumour of this,

Its purely out of curiosity... I like to know how things work...

bleep test i understand, but this one is new to me!

Cheers

Z

 

[propersplitbrainme]

I dont know the answer but if it helps the bike test is being replaced with the Rockport walk in 2011.

Is that anything like the Lambeth Walk?

<Sorry, I'll get my coat> DT_Xtremez_40:

 

[Mr Grok]

Normal theoretical calculation of max heart rate is 220 minus age.

Therefore max heart rate for 20 year old is 200 (220-20), max heart rate for 50 year old is 170 (220-50).

Mass, BMI, etc doesn't enter into it!

This is only a generalized figure. The only way to determine someones max heart rate is by actually measuring it! Don't worry, when (if) you get to your max heart rate it doesn't explode, it simple doesn't beat any faster.

So a 50 year old may have a theoretical max heart rate of 170, but it might actually measure as 173, or maybe 168, or.., or.... Hopefully you get the point.

 

[zantola]

Normal theoretical calculation of max heart rate is 220 minus age.

Therefore max heart rate for 20 year old is 200 (220-20), max heart rate for 50 year old is 170 (220-50).

Mass, BMI, etc doesn't enter into it!

This is only a generalized figure. The only way to determine someones max heart rate is by actually measuring it! Don't worry, when (if) you get to your max heart rate it doesn't explode, it simple doesn't beat any faster.

So a 50 year old may have a theoretical max heart rate of 170, but it might actually measure as 173, or maybe 168, or.., or.... Hopefully you get the point.

So in theory... the body mass index has [spanner] all to do with the bike test then?

 

[Mr Grok]

Not a PTI, don't know how the bike test works - but BMI certainly has nothing to do with max heart rate, and therefore nothing to do with 85% of max heart rate!!!!!

 

[OK..Igiveup]

I think

I think

Again I am no PTI.....as anyone who knows me will back up!!!
But i am sure for the RAF bike test, weight comes into it. I seem to remember the heavier you are the lower your limit.
So if you are a bit tubby the test is already against you compared to a leaner individual.
Just my thoughts...any pti's with any more info? assuming there are no mirrors on the way to the keyboard?? DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[NotAnIDOYet]

Again I am no PTI.....as anyone who knows me will back up!!!
But i am sure for the RAF bike test, weight comes into it. I seem to remember the heavier you are the lower your limit.
So if you are a bit tubby the test is already against you compared to a leaner individual.
Just my thoughts...any pti's with any more info? assuming there are no mirrors on the way to the keyboard?? DT_Xtremez_42:

I can concur with this. As a slighlty portly chap who cannot do the bleep test, but keeps himself fit with cycling around 100 miles a week during the summer and hitting the trainer in the garage in this weather, I failed the test. The calculations are flawed and command PEd knew it, hence the Rockport Walk we are getting in January.

For the bike test there is a weight/age chart giving a theoretical max load (kiloponds - whatever they are) that you should be aiming for on the bike. I train above the max HR I was allowed to get to and even my keen cyclist PTI said that the way you have to cycle to pass the test does not favour a cyclist. There was quite a lot of shock around my location when I failed and quite a bit of panic from me!

The charts are also not really set up for a larger chap with a modicum of fitness.

 

[What's the bloody point?]

I dont know the answer but if it helps the bike test is being replaced with the Rockport walk in 2011.

Sounds sensible and more relevant. Now all my unit (and many others I imagine) have to do is buy a 400m athletics track! Should be money in the coffers for this I am sure.

What's that? War on? No cash? Oh ok!

 

[The Enduring Sarge]

No track needed. All they will do is mark out a set distance in the gym, identified by cones, and get you walk between them until you have completed 1609m!

Keeps you dry, out of the weather and should be flat.

DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[PingDit]

Not sure if this will help to explain?

http://walking.about.com/library/cal/ucrockport.htm

Ping

 

[raflad67]

No track needed. All they will do is mark out a set distance in the gym, identified by cones, and get you walk between them until you have completed 1609m!

Keeps you dry, out of the weather and should be flat.

DT_Xtremez_14:

I do hope there will be no twisting involved as my knees, ankles etc cannot cope with such exertions....DT_Xtremez_34: