Are they changing the TG12 FI Tour Length?

[HotspurIDO]

Got an unexpected assignment order today (unexpected because I'm already OOA) for Adj Kent; it mentions 'TOUR LENGTH CHANGE IAW DIB 2010/57' ... I can't check that where I am right now. What's the crack, Jack?

 

[norfolkred1]

Time to call TG9 to the front. Knew this was going to happen eventually...Have you got any contact darn Sarf from where you are. KB from Bouz is down at the mo, maybe an option

 

[HotspurIDO]

Comms problematic right now.

Boss back home is going to try and chase this tomorrow, there has to be some error - 2 OOA's in a year? A bit harsh! (tho the one I'm on isnt DWR - but should count as DWR credit) ... I'm hoping it gets turned off, I dont relish that conversation with OC Home and Finance!

 

[norfolkred1]

Just spoke to KB's other half and he is unaware of it. Problem is if you are a dual hatter or have a Q then it was bound to happen, what two lists my ass. Glad I'm out and out of the rat race that's TG12

 

[gray]

Different trade but same DIN reference. Think it's just to clarify R&R times etc ref 4/6 months for different services. (I could be wrong though - but I'm only going for 4 - at the moment !)

Gray

 

[NotAnIDOYet]

Just spoke to KB's other half and he is unaware of it. Problem is if you are a dual hatter or have a Q then it was bound to happen, what two lists my ass. Glad I'm out and out of the rat race that's TG12

Just one list now matey - the SNCO IDOs are generally filling the TACRO slots as TG12 (any). Coming around more often too - the redundancies have caused a lot of people to be brought forward.

 

[LlanClan]

Different trade but same DIN reference. Think it's just to clarify R&R times etc ref 4/6 months for different services. (I could be wrong though - but I'm only going for 4 - at the moment !)Gray

This is correct. 57/10: Changes to Rest and Recuperation (R&R) Policy

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

Time to call TG9 to the front. Knew this was going to happen eventually...Have you got any contact darn Sarf from where you are. KB from Bouz is down at the mo, maybe an option

TG9 Not pulling their weight in your eyes then? Got to earn your high pay band before you lose it eh?

 

[HotspurIDO]

'Admin error' which is nice, I wont be going (not this time anyway). And yes, by all accounts it's still a four monther.

So, whoever was last away end of 2008ish stand by for news on a Christmas 2012 holiday ...

 

[HotspurIDO]

TG9 Not pulling their weight in your eyes then? Got to earn your high pay band before you lose it eh?

I dont think its a case of not pulling weight, but if we're going to pool manpower lets do it. If not lets forget about the whole damn scheme and put our house in order.

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

TG 9 have a short turnaround time too though.

Trade merger wont happen because of the pay thing at SNCO level, they wont upband TG9 and TG12 wont go down.

 

[Mug?]

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'Admin error' which is nice, I wont be going (not this time anyway). Which is nice. And yes, by all accounts it's still a four monther.

So, whoever was last away end of 2008ish stand by for news on a Christmas 2012 holiday ...

4 yr turn around what you moaning about?DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[HotspurIDO]

4 yr turn around what you moaning about?DT_Xtremez_42:

Can't see anyone moaning. I was crying like a little b!tch at the thought of a 3 month turn around ... but that's been straightened out, thanks for your input.

 

[SirSaltyHelmet]

So if it is a 4 year turnaround then you take up TG9 effort at much less than that

 

[HotspurIDO]

What's current t/r time for FOMs?

 

[opsgeek]

Around 2 years for both Cpl and Sgt. Far, far less if your Sqn.

 

[HotspurIDO]

That seems a bit much, I guess there's a few OOA slots there that could be filled by either trade? (much like some of our tasks could be done by your lot - many of these slots just seem to need a broad 'airspace aware' background common to both trades). Notwithstanding the pay-scale issue, one would have thought we could collectively look at this and pool resources/manpower accordingly for harmony sakes if nothing else? Just a thought ...

 

[NotAnIDOYet]

That seems a bit much, I guess there's a few OOA slots there that could be filled by either trade? (much like some of our tasks could be done by your lot - many of these slots just seem to need a broad 'airspace aware' background common to both trades). Notwithstanding the pay-scale issue, one would have thought we could collectively look at this and pool resources/manpower accordingly for harmony sakes if nothing else? Just a thought ...

DT_Xtremez_44:Certainly the TG9 Ops SNCO job at BSN could be done by a TG12 SACDT_Xtremez_19:

(awaits incoming...)

 

[Fearless Leader]

That seems a bit much, I guess there's a few OOA slots there that could be filled by either trade? (much like some of our tasks could be done by your lot - many of these slots just seem to need a broad 'airspace aware' background common to both trades). Notwithstanding the pay-scale issue, one would have thought we could collectively look at this and pool resources/manpower accordingly for harmony sakes if nothing else? Just a thought ...

In fact they talked about introducing that kind of policy service-wide when funnily enough I sat through an AMPLT roadshow at MPA. The example they gave was for RAFP, where they were tying down 4 female coppers on search duties, when the proposed solution could be to have a single copper supervising and 3 females from any trade doing the actual searches.

The problem I suggest would comes from protectionism between certain trade sponsors. I agree the ideal situation would be to cross-fill OOA slots with trades that have crossover skill-sets. However when the bean counters start to look at certain trade profiles then the barriers get raised and no matter how strained the manning becomes, a Trade would rather fill a lot with one of their guys then let someone else do it.

It's just an opinion and I'm sure such 'political' thoughts never occur to Trade Sponsors.

And hi to my fellow scopies, it's good to be back!!!