New fitness rumours...

[Downsizer]

From the mouth of SO1 fitness policy....

Operational fitness test to return...very soon..

4500 untested people in the RAF...never done a test. This figure does not include those on remedial! How can they discharge people if 4500 haven't even attempted the test?

 

[metimmee]

From the mouth of SO1 fitness policy....

Operational fitness test to return...very soon..

4500 untested people in the RAF...never done a test. This figure does not include those on remedial! How can they discharge people if 4500 haven't even attempted the test?

...how many of these are commissioned or folk in non-core posts away from section lists? I know for a fact there are many within DE&S that aren’t current.

Didn’t they have a high incidence of injuries during the last trial of the OFT? Cardio and fitness to undertake sit-ups and press-ups are easily practiced as an individual. Supplety and all-round strength to undertake an OFT I guess will require a bit more knowledge in order to effectively train...the kind of knowledge that directed PT gives you. I can hear the arguments of those who are never released for directed PT getting louder...and the opinions that this is another existence-justification exercise by the PTIs.

 

[Oberon305]

...how many of these are commissioned or folk in non-core posts away from section lists? I know for a fact there are many within DE&S that aren’t current.

Didn’t they have a high incidence of injuries during the last trial of the OFT? Cardio and fitness to undertake sit-ups and press-ups are easily practiced as an individual. Supplety and all-round strength to undertake an OFT I guess will require a bit more knowledge in order to effectively train...the kind of knowledge that directed PT gives you. I can hear the arguments of those who are never released for directed PT getting louder...and the opinions that this is another existence-justification exercise by the PTIs.

.....or maybe another way of the MOD getting rid of personnel without having to pay out massive redundancy fees?!??!

 

[BJW]

Or maybe SO1 Fitness Policy's attempt to justify the continued existence of the PTI trade?

 

[4everAD]

From the mouth of SO1 fitness policy....

Operational fitness test to return...very soon..

4500 untested people in the RAF...never done a test. This figure does not include those on remedial! How can they discharge people if 4500 haven't even attempted the test?

10% of the RAF! That is shocking. This is the death throes of the PTI trade, they can see it coming and are throwing out any reason to not privatise them.

 

[Tin basher]

.....or maybe another way of the MOD getting rid of personnel without having to pay out massive redundancy fees?!??!

Slightly Off Topic that's my mildly cynical but long held viewOff Topic

 

[The Enduring Sarge]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18484405

Is it my reading, or does the above link say that basically the OFT was a waste of everyones time?

 

[Sammy]

Same opinion here! I didn't do the Operational Fitness test when it was in, nobody ever told me to so I didn't end up actually doing it before it was sh1tcanned.

This will be just something else for the RAF to wield over us and threaten discharge if we don't all comply and pass, to speed up the manpower haemorrhage on the cheap.

Thats if it actually happens that is and is not just a nasty rumour!

 

[rest have risen above me]

I can't see it happening, as I'll be surprised if at the moment there are some legal eagles being primed due to the first lot of discharges on AFT grounds. (Which I suspect will cause a few ripples). I can't see them putting their heads in the firing line until they know they've got away with the first one.

 

[KingGuin]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18484405

Is it my reading, or does the above link say that basically the OFT was a waste of everyones time?

My understanding is that the report states OFT could not be used to reliably predict performance in an operational theatre but could be utilised to tell an individual to cut down on pie.

The advent of a more expeditionary Air Force will result in more time in theatre and more exposure to soldiering (IMHO) and thus the requirement to ensure a basic standard of fitness is one which merits serious consideration. I believe the last OFT package was ill thought through and hastily introduced. If we are going to do it we should do it properly with PT scheduled into the working day, the incorporation of a graduated and realistic training programme and the full support of management. Yeah right. Where's me bergen?

 

[monobrow]

Latest rumour I heard was a possible return to mile and a half, however it would need to be on an indoor running track to exclude any external variables.

 

[Downsizer]

Latest rumour I heard was a possible return to mile and a half, however it would need to be on an indoor running track to exclude any external variables.

He also mentioned a triangular bleep test as the turning element is seen as an integral part of the fitness assesment.

 

[Aces and Eights]

He also mentioned a triangular bleep test as the turning element is seen as an integral part of the fitness assesment.

The suspect returning to the scene of his crime.
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BBW ASS

 

[metimmee]

He also mentioned a triangular bleep test as the turning element is seen as an integral part of the fitness assesment.

Is this a wind-up? How would this work with a large group?

 

[4everAD]

Is this a wind-up? How would this work with a large group?

This would introduce an element of "Survival of the fittest/biggest/strongest" letting natural selection do the job, if you're not strong enough to push your way through on the corners then you'll failDT_Xtremez_14:

 

[FOMz]

All I can say is that the photo's the Chief mirror technician holds of the main airship must be bloody good, to 'persuade' him to change again!!!

 

[Joe_90]

Is this a wind-up? How would this work with a large group?

I don't know exactly how it works but I have heard before that the beep test has always meant to be run in a triangle to avoid the strains on the ankles and knees during turning. The problem we have is that most gyms aren't big enough and if it is done outside we come back to the complaints that it was too hot, cold ,windy, calm, snowy, rainy etc.

 

[Tin basher]

Same opinion here! I didn't do the Operational Fitness test when it was in, nobody ever told me to so I didn't end up actually doing it before it was sh1tcanned.!

If you take a lunchtime constitutional around some of the less travelled areas of the secret west midlands training base you can still see the rusting remains of the sand shovelling frames, spoof 3 tonner loading areas and disused sand bag fillling apparatus. God knows how much it all cost to make.

 

[Stevienics]

Is this a wind-up? How would this work with a large group?

I would imagine a little like the LHC is supposed to. You start off at level 1, and by the time you reach level 42 (see what i did there?) you actually catch up with yourself and become a Higgs Boson particle, thus making room for the next person.

 

[Dragoon]

If you take a lunchtime constitutional around some of the less travelled areas of the secret west midlands training base you can still see the rusting remains of the sand shovelling frames, spoof 3 tonner loading areas and disused sand bag fillling apparatus. God knows how much it all cost to make.

You know what, I actually-kind-of enjoyed (I use that term loosely!) the OFT, it was a lot more like the sort of things we do in real life than the bleep test is.

There were a few inaccuracies though, although I powered through the shovelling section, we all know when filling a sand bag you dont have you're mate stood up in front of you holding the bag at waist height do we?
No, he's crouched in front of you so you dont have to lift the shovel up so high.

And the loading onto a 4-tonner was a bit off, heavy things become a two man lift and its not a race to get the kit loaded most of the time.

I'd much rather do that twice a year than the bleep test.