Different government....same old sleaze.
So much for Daves new politics.
He shouldn't be sacked he should be on the dock with the other 3 labour mps and the Tory one. How can a tealeaf be described as a good and honourable man. So much for wanting privacy if he hadn't have claimed the rent no one would have been the wiser. So he thinks by paying the money back then it's ok, tell someone on benefits who gets a criminal record fir cheating on their claims that. Did we really think things would change with this lot in power. They will turn pit even sleazier, 3 weeks and they've started another 4 years 11 months and 1 week to go. Can't wait.
It all depends on your which side of the political divide you are on. I know I'll always keep the red flag flying.Realist78 said:Yeah, maybe we can let Liarbour have another stab at wrecking the country although this time they wouldn't have a pot of gold to play with, thanks to their predecessors.
It all depends on your which side of the political divide you are on. I know I'll always keep the red flag flying.
Anybody can have a pot of money by selling the family silver like thatcher did, (ba british gas the water companies bt etc) what would she have done if there was nothing to sell. Let's see how cameron does with nothing to sell off.Realist78 said:OK, so please explain why, that when Labour take the reins, they do so with a pot full of money but when thay exit office the pot is empty or should I say heavily in deficit.
Anybody can have a pot of money by selling the family silver like thatcher did, (ba british gas the water companies bt etc) what would she have done if there was nothing to sell. Let's see how cameron does with nothing to sell off.
Because she still lives on in the Tory party. If you want to go back to thecdays of over 3 million unemployed, 15% interest rates, everyman for himself, house repossesions by the thousands then your wish will be answered with dave boy. Do you think davey would have made a better fist of if, I don't think so.Realist78 said:Why oh why do people still go on about Thatcher? It's now 20 years since she left office, let it drop. Please enlighten us to how Liarbour inherited a pot in 1997 and then spent the next 13 years putting us in £700+ Bn in debt!
Anybody can have a pot of money by selling the family silver like thatcher did, (ba british gas the water companies bt etc) what would she have done if there was nothing to sell. Let's see how cameron does with nothing to sell off.
Because she still lives on in the Tory party. If you want to go back to thecdays of over 3 million unemployed, 15% interest rates, everyman for himself, house repossesions by the thousands then your wish will be answered with dave boy. Do you think davey would have made a better fist of if, I don't think so.
Because she still lives on in the Tory party. If you want to go back to thecdays of over 3 million unemployed, 15% interest rates, everyman for himself, house repossesions by the thousands then your wish will be answered with dave boy. Do you think davey would have made a better fist of if, I don't think so.
It all depends on your which side of the political divide you are on. I know I'll always keep the red flag flying.
And getting back to the original post about politicians expenses...................
... we got into this position under the stewardship of successive Labour governments.
Realist78, I'm afraid it isn't any attempts at regualtion (admitedly very few) that were tried were opposed by the 'heir to Blair'. In fact Davey boy wanted even lighter regulation.Complete and utter supposition.
TBJ, we got into this position because too many bankers were lying on their balance sheets, no politicians (worldwide) got a grip of it - and if they had tried they would have been panned by the bankers friends in the press.
Realist78, I'm afraid it isn't any attempts at regualtion (admitedly very few) that were tried were opposed by the 'heir to Blair'. In fact Davey boy wanted even lighter regulation.
The long & the short of it is that the bankers wrecked the economy, and now their friends in the Treasury will wreck the public sector to pay for the bankers mistakes, while the bankers go on giving themselves big bonuses and telling everyone else they need to take pay cuts and lose their pensions. This will result in a tightening and accelerating spiral of decline, the policy course we are currently on is akin to that in the early 30s.
As for the expenses scandal, yes dreadful & sums up the type of people who go into politics and all that, but it is bagatelle compared to the fraud that has been committed in the City of London, which we will be paying for generations.