Members of the Black Police Association were shocked to be accused of racism

[it's-me-isn't-it]

Members of the Black Police Association were shocked to be accused of racism by an MP they had asked to speak at their conference – and realised they had mistakenly invited the wrong man.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...avid-Davis-sees-police-accused-of-racism.html

Do you think that The Black Police Association is racist?
how about a Black Royal Airforce Association?

discuss

 

[Talk Wrench]

It seems these days, that you are only "not a racist" if you are "not a white".


I'm glad that they are shocked. It's a self serving organisation as far as I'm concerned.


Glad that the Rt Hon gentleman spoke the truth.




TW

 

[sid the squid]

and why don't we have a black undertakers association or a black fishmongers association, no need no need we don't have to do everything the americans do

 

[firestorm]

An organisation set up by its members for its own purposes is, by definition, self serving!

 

[PVRisthefuture]

Do you think that The Black Police Association is racist?

Yes. If white people aren't allowed to join, then obviously it is.

The only flaw in any argument being, if it were compared to the Gay, lesbian, Bi-sexual and transgender association - it wouldn't be an issue, as heterosexuals wouldn't want anything to do with it.

But, if you consider setting up a white male association, I'm sure it would not be long until someone was accused of racism there....

Although, it does make me wonder - What is the point? What do they do in these associations? Talk about black things? Talk about gay things? If they are insisting on being equal, why create segregation by the creation of such associations?

 

[it's-me-isn't-it]

Yes. If white people aren't allowed to join, then obviously it is.

The only flaw in any argument being, if it were compared to the Gay, lesbian, Bi-sexual and transgender association - it wouldn't be an issue, as heterosexuals wouldn't want anything to do with it.

But, if you consider setting up a white male association, I'm sure it would not be long until someone was accused of racism there....

Although, it does make me wonder - What is the point? What do they do in these associations? Talk about black things? Talk about gay things? If they are insisting on being equal, why create segregation by the creation of such associations?

Very eloquently put, exactly my thoughts just didn't have the vocabulary and eloquence you have.
i agree that is is most certainly racist as is the MOBO's Music of black origin
and while we're on the point Shellas wheels are Sexist, you can't have a Blokes only insurance company can you?

 

[PVRisthefuture]

while we're on the point Shellas wheels are Sexist, you can't have a Blokes only insurance company can you?

Actually you can, I phoned up want to start a sexism argument, and they gave me a quote. Rubbish price, but at least they didn't refuse! Told them their music was cack too.

 

[it's-me-isn't-it]

Actually you can, I phoned up want to start a sexism argument, and they gave me a quote. Rubbish price, but at least they didn't refuse! Told them their music was cack too.

get in

i did consider applying then changing my details at the last moment. ie saying my datails as a girl then at the last minute after i got the quote tell them i'm a bloke and see if it changed the price.

 

[Chaka]

In the West Indian community a black policeman is known as a Coconut.DT_Xtremez_35:

This is because they are seen as being 'brown on the outside and white on the inside'.

The poor sods are doomed from the start and liked by no one.

Maybe we should cut them some slack and let them enjoy their little club, a bit like the RAF Police Clubs, if you know what I mean.DT_Xtremez_15:

 

[The Masked Geek]

If these individuals feel so inferior that they need their own clubs then let them.

I'm quite happy not needing a "white" club to make me feel better about myself.

 

[PVRisthefuture]

Maybe we should cut them some slack and let them enjoy their little club, a bit like the RAF Police Clubs, if you know what I mean.DT_Xtremez_15:

I remember several postings ago, at unit far, far away the scuffers were bleating about having their own bar so they could discuss handcuffs, and places to eat a pie in peace or whatever. Well our boss, (the only one yet who missed the Cranwell spine removal course) demanded one for us too, as we did sneaky beaky type stuff, and we needed a bar to chat about work related stuff too. Everyone jumped on the band wagon and the whole thing was called off.

Someone should have nipped in the bud ages ago by setting up the white man (brown hair) club, the white man (blonde hair) club etc.

It is b00dy racist having an organisation that some races can't join. Maybe they sit around finding reasons to whinge or something. I don't know. All I know is it is crap.

 

[Stax]

Difficult one this. The country wants its public services and armed forces to reflect real life. That means people who are black, white, male, female, straight, gay all working together in harmony. Having a sub organisation such as the black or gay police officers assn could be construed as elitist in one respect or even rascist in another. Unfortunatley the old chestnut of "if we had a white blokes assn we would be accused of being racist/sexists" doesn't hold water nowadays as the majority of us in work are white males, ergo we have an assn already! I don't agree with these kind of political organisations as they drive a wedge between people where there is no reason to. Ban 'em all I say.

 

[pie sandwich]

I can understand that they want to encourage more people from ethnic minorities (I fooking hate that phrase) to join the police force, but that is what a recruitment campaign is for.
You don't need a special club to join just because your black/asian, surly the whole point of having people integrate with each other is to treat them all the same and have them all in the same pot.

I can also understand that they need a race relations team to help educate others and also to help the police function within different communities.

But to have a organisation such as the BPA is nothing more than segregation and isolation, instead of bringing people together it drives a wedge between them, and even within their own ranks.

A example of this would be a guy I worked with some time ago was married to a black lass who was a copper, I think it was a christmas function held by the BPA was planned without even thinking she got two tickets, when they got there he was refused entry not because he wasn't a copper but because he is white. Needless to say they both told them to shove it up their hoop. If it was the other way around heads would role, their would be court cases and questions in parliament and juicy big compo cheques given out to all.

It has more than pasted its time for disbandment.

 

[firestorm]

It can (and has been) difficult for women and ethnic minorities to join a predominantly white male workforce in the past. Thats the reason support groups are set up, to support.
They've worked in attracting and retaining people in the public sector.