How proud would you be ?

[Tashy_Man]

How proud would you be if your offspring came home and announced they were doing an A Level in burger flipping ?

Yup thats right good ole maccy d's are now doing A levels....full story HERE

If either of mine came home and told me that i think i might just have to build a patio !!.....Then again i suppose it could lead to free food so it might not be all bad....yeah right !!

Discuss................

Crack on.............DT_Xtremez_09:

 

[shoutingwind]

wahoo i'll have prospect of a decent job when i leave! yipee!

yeah right!

 

[BiGjD]

haha! Well we all know where all the chavvy teenagers are going to go looking for work now don't we? Wouldn't work at a fast food resteraunt for any sum of money!

 

[Rich_P]

Wouldn't buy anything from one either!

 

[auchtermuchty]

In fairness to Ronalds mob, their management training program was regarded as one of the best worldwide and all this does is give the people they train some recognised qualifications. Is it a bad thing that companies do in-house training that is now monitored by a national agency?

I have to believe that its not.

On another note if Flybe are going down the same road it gives those of us that are suitably qualified instructor types another company to fire a CV to.DT_Xtremez_28:

 

[Plumber]

So let me see, McDonalds is offering to pay someone to go and get some quals in business management whilst there peers are at college/uni spongeing off the state and their parents; and this is a bad thing because? This would I presume be something that would be readily transferable to other employers so job opportunities would not be limited to Maccy D's at the successful completion. Sounds like a win win to me for someone with the bottle to work for McD. Would I do it? Only if needs must.

 

[laboratoryqueen]

To be honest I think it's a good thing. Lets face it not many go to work for Maccy D's with the intention of staying for life or making a full career out of it, it generally is a stepping stone job. If getting a recognised certificate in management is on offer and one which can be transferred to other work placements then I think it is worthwhile. At least they'll have a management qualification and the work experience.

Yes okay working at Maccy D's isn't what anyone would think of as an ideal job but it's still a job.

Hell I'm on the senior team where I work but all that will be recognised to another employer is my first aid cert and academic qualifications, an MDI would be nothing to them apart from the experience.

 

[BiGjD]

Well yeah I do agree it has it's good sides haha it's just strange thats all DT_Xtremez_31:

 

[PingDit]

From the quoted article:


David Fairhurst, senior vice-president and chief people officer from McDonald's, said it was "an important and exciting step" for the company. "We want to ensure that our approach to recruitment, training, and development continues to create real opportunities for social mobility," he said.

What planet are these people from? They then go on to compare Flybe's training scheme where people can learn engineering, to theirs!

What they should be doing is educating them as to what constitutes a good diet, how to avoid getting a spotty face and an ar5e the size of a small country!
Oh, hang on a minute, they'd be putting themselves out of business.....

 

[Tashy_Man]

If getting a recognised certificate in management is on offer and one which can be transferred to other work placements then I think it is worthwhile.

I think most employers would laugh in you face if you went to them with this and asked for a job in management (unless of course you had 5 stars and a few empoyee of the month awards !!)

Crack on.....................DT_Xtremez_09:

 

[Scaley brat]

I think I would be proud ! The way I see it, it would show that SB jnr had decided to gain something from McD's for the future. To improve his lot in life.
As long as other employers recognise it, which I'm sure they will, it could only be a good thing.

As a footnote, he could also inherit my place at the grill during family BBq's DT_Xtremez_28:

 

[laboratoryqueen]

I think most employers would laugh in you face if you went to them with this and asked for a job in management (unless of course you had 5 stars and a few empoyee of the month awards !!)

Crack on.....................DT_Xtremez_09:

Why, it shows the person has taken the time to further their training and with a certificate to show the fact. Is the problem with this down to it being Macdonalds, would it have been as laughable if it were a different company, one which is seen as a bit more dignified to work for.

 

[PingDit]

Why, it shows the person has taken the time to further their training and with a certificate to show the fact. Is the problem with this down to it being Macdonalds, would it have been as laughable if it were a different company, one which is seen as a bit more dignified to work for.

Yes. Definately. Without a doubt.
However, I cannot think of ANY burger outlet that it would be dignified to work for.

 

[penfold93]

Confession Time.

Before joining up, (whilst at sixth form) i worked for the red headed clown part time and have to say as an employer there training is very good. Obviously this was a few years ago (they didnt do breakfasts when I first started), but the work values that were instilled in us, importance of appearence, etc are valued in all areas of life. What is wrong with someone who struggles academically gaining transferable qualifications in the food industry that may get them on the educational ladder and so enhance their prospects in life.

As said by others The McD's management program is recognised as one of the finest in the world. So the Flybe may get you an engineering qual but not everyone is mechanically minded or live near an airport so why not get a boost up in the leisure and catering industry instead.

I have been fortunate academically and work wise but some are not so fortunate and anything to get people away from living off the state and into full time employment must be a good initiative. It is scary to think that some of the people who worked with me at MD's are now senior managers earning way more than me with nice company cars.

Would you like fries with thatDT_Xtremez_28:

 

[TheHogwartsBEngO]

what if Marks and Spencer offered this qualification? It would probably be held in higher esteem.

Then again, I've had it on good authority that employers doing the 'milk-rounds' and ready to employ graduates will favour applicants who have worked in places like McDonalds. A McDonald's worker always works as part of a team and that is seen as proof of a very useful (and not particularly common) skill by many graduate employers.

 

[Scaley brat]

Yes. Definately. Without a doubt.
However, I cannot think of ANY burger outlet that it would be dignified to work for.

Why ? People want to eat. If we didn't eat there, they would go out of business. At the end of the day they simply fill a hole in the market that we have created. McD are a very large employer across the world. I would think this certificate will, at the very least, show that an individual is looking for a career and not just a job.

 

[pie sandwich]

There is more dignity in doing a days graft no matter who for than sitting at home on the rock and roll.

They do have to try hard to get people to stay rather than use it as a stepping stone, while it is by no means the best job in the world at least they are trying to improve its employees lot by the offer of further education that they can make full use of while in Mc D's. Its a good idea just a bad place to work, but if its all you've got then you might as well make the most out of it just as long as you can use the qualification else where.

 

[laboratoryqueen]

Yes. Definately. Without a doubt.
However, I cannot think of ANY burger outlet that it would be dignified to work for.

The qualifiation doesn't restrict them to only working in burger joints.

I admit I'd not work for Macdonalds and I don't want my kids to work there, saying that, if I or my kids were sitting on the dole and Macdonalds had vacancies, I'd swallow my pride and go for it. End of the day it's a job and not a free handout. If they are willing to offer training and qualifications to give anyone a leg up, I don't see that as a bad thing.

 

[PingDit]

Why ? People want to eat. If we didn't eat there, they would go out of business. At the end of the day they simply fill a hole in the market that we have created. McD are a very large employer across the world. I would think this certificate will, at the very least, show that an individual is looking for a career and not just a job.

I don't actually know of anyone that ever eats at places like that. Most of the people I know, know how to eat properly. If it did spread and everybody stopped eating there, yes they would go out of business. Great. Applause all round. Only then may we manage to get our younger generation eating sensibly. I honestly think that this proposed certificate will be meaningless to any responsible employer.

Great, they can flip a burger. If they want to be chefs, take the proper training route for a chef - not the half-a55ed route that's being proposed. It only helps to further demean the A-level.

 

[laboratoryqueen]

I don't actually know of anyone that ever eats at places like that. Most of the people I know, know how to eat properly. If it did spread and everybody stopped eating there, yes they would go out of business. Great. Applause all round. Only then may we manage to get our younger generation eating sensibly. I honestly think that this proposed certificate will be meaningless to any responsible employer.

Great, they can flip a burger. If they want to be chefs, take the proper training route for a chef - not the half-a55ed route that's being proposed. It only helps to further demean the A-level.

It could be possible that if someone did want to further themselves in the catering business but can't afford to go through the usual route of higher education, they may be able to gain this qualification and use it to enter a line of employment which will take this and allow them to then go further. Quite a few companies offer further training with recognised qualifications through work, but you need to be in work to gain it.

The idea that Macdonalds is unhealthy and is greatly effecting the obesity rate of todays youth is clouding the issue of the qualification which is available.