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Scenario: You remustered to a trade offering time promotion 3 years out of training to cpl and a further 4 years to sgt.1 year out of training in new trade, you hear rumours they are getting rid of time promo to sgt but keeping to cpl.
Q1. Can they do this if you remustered specifically for time promo to sgt or do they have to restrict it to new entrants to trade after a certain date.
Q2. If they do do it, what is it saying in AP3376 Vol 1, part 1 chap 10:
1. The term "reserved rights" is normally used to identify personnel serving in a trade that has been subject to a significant change eg loss of time promotion and as a consequence their conditions of service are significantly affected by that change. Once a decision has been made individuals will be advised of the change and of their reserved rights which may be to either the rank or pay.
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Reserved Rights to Promotion
3. Apart from the removal of the jnr tech rank most of the changes have been as a result of the loss of time promotion. If the decision only affects new recruits after a given date then the procedures and criteria to effect the time promotion of those serving at the time of the change remain extant until they are promoted or discharged.
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Reserved Rights to Pay
4. If the decision is made to withdraw time promotion for all personnel in a trade, or group of trades, but individuals currently serving have been given the reserved rights to the pay of the appropriate rank(s) then the following procedures will be followed to effect the award of the pay.
Q3. Does this say they still have to award the pay but not the rank??
Q4. Is there grounds for a service complaint if it turns out true? especially as some people turned down thier Cpls to retrade putting themselves back a few years.
Q1. Can they do this if you remustered specifically for time promo to sgt or do they have to restrict it to new entrants to trade after a certain date.
Q2. If they do do it, what is it saying in AP3376 Vol 1, part 1 chap 10:
1. The term "reserved rights" is normally used to identify personnel serving in a trade that has been subject to a significant change eg loss of time promotion and as a consequence their conditions of service are significantly affected by that change. Once a decision has been made individuals will be advised of the change and of their reserved rights which may be to either the rank or pay.
and
Reserved Rights to Promotion
3. Apart from the removal of the jnr tech rank most of the changes have been as a result of the loss of time promotion. If the decision only affects new recruits after a given date then the procedures and criteria to effect the time promotion of those serving at the time of the change remain extant until they are promoted or discharged.
and
Reserved Rights to Pay
4. If the decision is made to withdraw time promotion for all personnel in a trade, or group of trades, but individuals currently serving have been given the reserved rights to the pay of the appropriate rank(s) then the following procedures will be followed to effect the award of the pay.
Q3. Does this say they still have to award the pay but not the rank??
Q4. Is there grounds for a service complaint if it turns out true? especially as some people turned down thier Cpls to retrade putting themselves back a few years.
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