Are you a pinch point?

[skevans]

Just came across this load of old drivel!

If you read note 1 at the bottom it shows a clear get out clause, the standard four month tour is 123 days not the 125 quoted!

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/wrans/?id=2007-10-29b.154236.h&s=raf#g154236.r0

Just in case of difficulty I have pasted the info below, and removed the RN/Army bit

Liam Fox (Woodspring, Conservative) | Hansard source

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence

(1) what the voluntary outflow exit rates are of each pinch point trade in the armed forces;

(2) by what percentage each pinch point trade in the armed forces is exceeding harmony guidelines.

Photo of Derek Twigg Derek Twigg (Parliamentary Under-Secretary, Ministry of Defence) | Hansard source

Details of pinch point trades exceeding harmony guidelines(1) and voluntary outflow rates in these particular trades are provided in the following tables(2).

Some pinch points record no harmony breaches. These groups, often with very small populations of specialists, have to be managed on a tri-Service basis in order to maintain harmony. This is successfully done by the use of reserves or contractors to solve the problem in the short term or to call upon the other two Services to assist. For example, the Defence Medical Services may deploy tri-Service teams to field hospitals on operations. This enables individuals' harmony to be maintained and enables Force Commanders to retain operational capability, although undermanning in the trade still means it is categorised as a pinch point.

Voluntary outflow is not directly linked to frequency of deployments. People leave the Services for a whole number of reasons; frequency of deployments is just one.

(1 )Each Service has its own harmony guidelines. The Royal Navy measures time away over a three-year period, the Army over a 30-month period and the RAF over a 12-month period.

(2 )The most recent figures have been provided for each Service.

RAF—Operational pinch point
Percentage
Trade Separated Service( 1) as at 1 May 2007 & Voluntary outflow rates as at 1 May 2007
Medical 9.9 2.3
Operational Support (Intelligence) 9.2 2.1
Operational Support (RAF Regiment) 20.4 2.7
Operational Support (Provost/Security) 11.9 5.1
Princess Mary's RAF Nursing Service 10.0 2.3
Weapons Support (Air Load Master) 4.4 0.6
Weapons Support (Linguist) 6.5 0.0
Air Traffic Control—Sergeant 3.2 2.3
FOM/FOA—Sergeant 4.4 4.8
Firefighter 12.1 10.6
Gunner 22.2 5.3
Movements Operations/Controller 8.6 3.4
Motor Transport Technician 14.1 2.5
RAF Police 10.8 4.2
Staff Nurse (RGN) A&E 8.3 6.4
(1) The percentage of personnel within that trade that have completed more than 125 days separated service on operational deployments.

 

[FOMz]

I've just been looking at the figures for my trade - to say they've been 'massaged' somewhat is an understatement, more like had a right good kicking and left in the gutter to bleed.

What a load of b0ll0cks.

 

[penfold93]

Notice medical gets a good mention. Some of us are licky and spome of us a shafted dependent on speciality within the trade. A&E, ITU etc are really busy as are all the paramedic trained medics, but as we all know its across the board

 

[TrenchardsLoveSock]

Notice medical gets a good mention. Some of us are licky and spome of us a shafted dependent on speciality within the trade. A&E, ITU etc are really busy as are all the paramedic trained medics, but as we all know its across the board

WTF is that?

Seriuosly, I have no idea what that is supposed to say.

Agree about the across the board cr@p though. For every bugger that's shafted big-time and ready to PVR there is somone who goes nowhere to bring the figures down to a reasonable number.

Fecking statisticsDT_Xtremez_25:

 

[skevans]

I think he means

Notice medical gets a good mention. Some of us are lucky and some of us a shafted dependent on speciality within the trade. A&E, ITU etc are really busy as are all the paramedic trained medics, but as we all know its across the board

 

[TrenchardsLoveSock]

Thanks Skevans. Looks like penfold has an alter ego too then, the English copper from 'Allo, 'Allo!

Not much incentive to go for it though, is it? Congrats, on being a specialist, BEND OVER!

 

[tats]

Ok I'm going to set myself up for it, please can someone explain what pinch point is?

I don't quite understand what the deal is and as I'll be part of the list I'd kinda like to know.

Cheers DT_Xtremez_42:

 

[skevans]

It's a generic term for the most overstretched trades within the forces, and the figures above are without doubt false and hiding the truth.

 

[tats]

It's a generic term for the most overstretched trades within the forces, and the figures above are without doubt false and hiding the truth.

Thank you, I kinda knew that I was going into a trade where they were kinda desperate for more people, just didn't realise that was the term for it. DT_Xtremez_28: