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Alcohol tester required when driving in France

busby1971

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Don't know where you live Shugs, okay I can guess, but an 11 Euro fine is hardly massive.

They'll cost a couple of Euro's in France from shops that French people use, but like bottles of water after security at airports, they'll cost you a Fiver on the Ferry.

Probably worth taking a chance.
 

fatalbert

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The legal tester costs about €1.50 in Carrefour, Casino, Leclerc, Monoprix, Auchan, Super U and so on.

The French police can't impose a fine until 1st November 2012, only give an informal warning if you are checked. The ferry companies and Eurotunnel are making a big cash killing as usual. If you are travelling to France by car this summer, save a few euros and buy a tester in France. I live in France, and my French colleagues won't even buy a tester until October!
 

puynavard

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I live in France and we are unable to purchase these testers as all suppliers around us have run out and there are no dates for restock. Apparently the manufacturers have been caught out and this is why fines will not be imposed until Nov. If you are travelling to France this summer I wouldn't bother to purchase a tester(2 required by the new law). The prices for these testers in France is around 3 euros for 2.
 

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I live in France and we are unable to purchase these testers as all suppliers around us have run out and there are no dates for restock. Apparently the manufacturers have been caught out and this is why fines will not be imposed until Nov. If you are travelling to France this summer I wouldn't bother to purchase a tester(2 required by the new law). The prices for these testers in France is around 3 euros for 2.

Puynavard is correct, 2 must be carried in the car along with everything else.

Point to note also is that we have been informed that your SATNAV must not pick up speed camera locations (warning function to be disabled) as a roadside stop by the Gendarmerie could result in a bigger fine if discovered.
 

Shugster

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Puynavard is correct, 2 must be carried in the car along with everything else.

Point to note also is that we have been informed that your SATNAV must not pick up speed camera locations (warning function to be disabled) as a roadside stop by the Gendarmerie could result in a bigger fine if discovered.

That's where I got confused, the speed camera fine is supposed to be a biggie. Is it really only 11 Euros then?
 

fatalbert

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Puynavard is correct, 2 must be carried in the car along with everything else.

Point to note also is that we have been informed that your SATNAV must not pick up speed camera locations (warning function to be disabled) as a roadside stop by the Gendarmerie could result in a bigger fine if discovered.

Puynavard is not strictly correct. The law is that 1 unused (and still in test date) alcohol tester must be carried. Puynavard is correct in that the logical extension is that you must buy 2, so that if you breath-test yourself before your journey after you have partaken of alcohol, you will still be legal by having an unused alcohol tester in your glove compartment (or wherever one keeps breath-testers), should you be stopped by the gendarmerie. There is wide distrust in the latest legal move by the French. Blood alcohol levels rise up to half an hour (approx) after the last drink, and a car kit breath-test could give a false negative. Sarkozy ushered the law in, maybe Hollande will see it out.

The SatNav law is equally confusing. From the 1st of July, whether disabled or not, it is an offence to have French speed camera locations on your GPS Traffic System. You are supposed to remove the French speed camera software in-toto. I don't know how to remove the 'offending' software from my TomTom, and I'm not convinced that the Gendarmerie would be interested in forensically investigating my receiver to see if I had out-of-date speed camera warning software! I do know that TomTom no longer provide French speed camera information to me.
 

puynavard

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The SatNav law is equally confusing. From the 1st of July, whether disabled or not, it is an offence to have French speed camera locations on your GPS Traffic System. You are supposed to remove the French speed camera software in-toto. I don't know how to remove the 'offending' software from my TomTom, and I'm not convinced that the Gendarmerie would be interested in forensically investigating my receiver to see if I had out-of-date speed camera warning software! I do know that TomTom no longer provide French speed camera information to me.

Apparently, despite the new law it is illegal for the French Police/Gendarme to examine your GPS without a warrant, so in practice the new law is unenforceable on old GPS units. However, this is probably not seen as an issue by the French authorities, as there is no intention to check individual GPS units, as the job will be done over time anyway,with the law preventing manufacturers distributing or updating GPS units with French speed camera information.
It is also accepted that there are certain built in car GPS units where it is not possible to erase this data.
Can you see the average French driver being as bothered about this, as compared to such law abiding Brits!!
 

PraiseBacon

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France isn’t to bad fine wise – 11 Euro’s for the breathalyzer thing (we we’re dumb and paid 5 quid at Folkeston, then found they were 3 Euro’s at the other side!)

I’ve also found that France tends not to send the speed camera fines overseas – have set off a few in last 12 months and nothing has ever come through.

The big rip off is the motorway tolls – they are daylight robbery! (Nice to Montpellier was about 40 Euro’s each way!) – I guess they figure they are raking in enough from the motorways to not have to care too much about the speeding fines.

If driving to Europe, France (even the breath kits) is in no way the biggest ‘gotcha’ though – just be very careful going into Austria, and to an extent, Switzerland. You have to get a tax sticker in advance (about Euro 9 IIRC), and if you don’t have one – which is automatically looked for by camera over the motorway, the fines start at 400 Euro and go up to 4000. Which is completely out of proportion to the offense and just a tourist trap / rip off.

I drove to Austria a while back, saw the ‘this is toll road’ signs in Germany, so asked at the services – who said it didn’t apply to cars. Then went through mountain roads in Austria before rejoining the motorway and saw a ‘this is a toll road ‘sign, so asked at the hotel - who said it was pay in advance or get a big fine. Rang the road operator, who confirmed I had passed a checkpoint without paying, and there was no way to pay retrospectively, so fine was coming – with no way to intercept it. They also added taht I should have checked their rules in advance as 'everyone' knows about the Vignette system. A 600 Euro fine arrived yesterday, going to 3000 if not paid in 28 days , or if I ask for a hearing and lose! (which as they are, IMO, butt plug wearers is what will happen if you don't pay their rip of fine without going to court)

What utter wankers!, At least in Frogville there is a toll booth, so you know if you choose to go through the automatic lane you have committed an offense. And in Australia, if you go onto a toll road, you can ring and pay up to 24 hours later before a big fine kicks in. In Austria, you either know about it, or you get a dry shafting!.. (The people are nice, but the Govt policies are very tourist unfriendly)
Switzerland is much the same, but the fine is about Euro 50 apparently – which isn’t quite as bad..

End rant on overpriced French motorways and asshole Austrian motorway tourist traps..
 
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Not too sure how gospel this one is, but talking to a few guys out here the latest is that its illegal to use your cruise control in Belgium. Now how is that one enforced??
 
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They also added taht I should have checked their rules in advance as 'everyone' knows about the Vignette system.

I got pulled in Austria simply because my Vignette was just on my dashboard and not stuck to my windscreen (which incidently now refuses to budge from my windscreen for anything less than a thermic lance). Think the fact I've got Brit plates on my car makes me a target for Austrian police.
 

Shugster

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I got pulled in Austria simply because my Vignette was just on my dashboard and not stuck to my windscreen (which incidently now refuses to budge from my windscreen for anything less than a thermic lance). Think the fact I've got Brit plates on my car makes me a target for Austrian police.

I drive through Austria quite a bit and they do come off by peeling, then use a wet cloth with a bit of windscreen wash for a couple of minutes and it does come off. I had to do it as the left hand side of my windscreen was so full of glue residue I had nowhere to stick the new one.
 
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If driving to Europe, France (even the breath kits) is in no way the biggest ‘gotcha’ though – just be very careful going into Austria, and to an extent, Switzerland. You have to get a tax sticker in advance (about Euro 9 IIRC), and if you don’t have one – which is automatically looked for by camera over the motorway, the fines start at 400 Euro and go up to 4000. Which is completely out of proportion to the offense and just a tourist trap / rip off.

I drove to Austria a while back, saw the ‘this is toll road’ signs in Germany, so asked at the services – who said it didn’t apply to cars. Then went through mountain roads in Austria before rejoining the motorway and saw a ‘this is a toll road ‘sign, so asked at the hotel - who said it was pay in advance or get a big fine. Rang the road operator, who confirmed I had passed a checkpoint without paying, and there was no way to pay retrospectively, so fine was coming – with no way to intercept it. They also added taht I should have checked their rules in advance as 'everyone' knows about the Vignette system. A 600 Euro fine arrived yesterday, going to 3000 if not paid in 28 days , or if I ask for a hearing and lose! (which as they are, IMO, butt plug wearers is what will happen if you don't pay their rip of fine without going to court)

So do they send the fine to the UK? As you are not in Austria any more how can they demand you do anything? I doubt very much that you would be extradited back to Austria for a motoring offence?
 

PraiseBacon

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So do they send the fine to the UK? As you are not in Austria any more how can they demand you do anything? I doubt very much that you would be extradited back to Austria for a motoring offence?

Yes, Although in my case, as I drive a company owned car - they sent the fine to my employer. Who, to add insult to injury, charged me an additional 26 Pound admin fee to send the fine onto my house and notify the originator what they had done.

Since 1st Oct 2009 these fines have been enforceable in most European countries (for fines above 70 Euro's), and they can chase though the UK courts under a cross border agreement.

Some blurb here http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1216665/Holidaymakers-pay-EU-speeding-fines-home-UK.html Apologies for it being from the mail - first link I found this morning.

Co-incidentally, France was not a signatory to the scheme (explaining why my French speeding fines have never arrived!) - although they have decided to join from 2013, so I guess I'll have to start being more careful in Frogville from next year. http://www.connexionfrance.com/europe-cross-border-driving-fines-motoring-offences-speeding-france-uk-12870-view-article.html

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inally, my job requires me to travel - even if they couldn't chase me for the money in UK - having self inflicted restrictions on where I could travel due to unpaid fines etc be something that would cause my employers to suggest I either take responsibility for my actions (and pay the fine), or find a new job!.

Essentially, I'm going to have to suck it up and pay it.. which as I was on the motorways for less than 15 miles, make Austria the most overpriced toll roads in Europe on a mile per mile basis. Still, a friend of mine went right though Austria and out the other side, plus back again - working up a 1500 Euro starting fine in the process! (always someone worse off etc!)
 
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