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Return Of The Tech Charge

Max Reheat

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Anyone else heard of this rumour or is it true? If its true I hope its for the right reasons, IE get some of the gash, lazy barstewards to do their job properly and not just another excuse to boot people out of the RAF (although some I wouldn't mind seeing given their marching orders)

No doubt the crewroom lawyers will be moaning about it, must be such a hinderance to be asked to do things right.
 

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Anyone else heard of this rumour or is it true? If its true I hope its for the right reasons, IE get some of the gash, lazy barstewards to do their job properly and not just another excuse to boot people out of the RAF (although some I wouldn't mind seeing given their marching orders)

No doubt the crewroom lawyers will be moaning about it, must be such a hinderance to be asked to do things right.

I know for sure that there hasn't been anything officially called a tech charge since at least 1990 (most probably before). However, it was possible to charge someone for negligently performing a duty under the Air Force Act.

It is still possible to charde someone for negligently performing a duty under the Armed Forces Act 2006:
15 Failure to attend for or perform duty etc
(1) A person subject to service law commits an offence if, without reasonable excuse, he—

(a) fails to attend for any duty;

(b) leaves any duty before he is permitted to do so; or

(c) fails to perform any duty.
(2) A person subject to service law commits an offence if he performs any duty negligently.

(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable to any punishment mentioned in the Table in section 164, but any sentence of imprisonment imposed in respect of the offence must not exceed two years.​
 
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I know for sure that there hasn't been anything officially called a tech charge since at least 1990 (most probably before). However, it was possible to charge someone for negligently performing a duty under the Air Force Act.

It is still possible to charde someone for negligently performing a duty under the Armed Forces Act 2006:

Agreed,

It was allways a Charge (for a technical matter). But still promulgated as a standard charge
 

MrMasher

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You can't beat a good old fashioned witch hunt followed by a tech charge! It's good for morale.

We could do with a spate of tech charges, it would be more effective than all the crappy other stuff (write an Aeso/Aero, fill in a report, mems, etc)we have to tolerate when someone screws it up.
 

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Tech charges to make a comeback?

What about Admin charges for Shineys who fcuk up ?

What about Supply charges for stackers who can't supply things ?

It might wake them up a little bit as to their responsibilities.

Oh, yeah, Tech Charge should mean Tech Pay.


TW
 

GD on Wheels

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I posed a question some time ago about it,so can someone tell me if you did receive a Tech charge would that put an end to any further promotion? Considering the seriousness of it.
 

Talk Wrench

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I posed a question some time ago about it,so can someone tell me if you did receive a Tech charge would that put an end to any further promotion? Considering the seriousness of it.


I was always led to believe that it was a career stopper, should you be tech charged.

A "normal" charge, I was led to believe was lifed, a bit like points on a drivers license. With a tech charge, I was told it stuck like mud for the rest of your career, if you had one left.

That's what i was told. I could be wrong.


TW
 

Max Reheat

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I heard of somebody getting tech charged in the late 90's for dropping a Tornado genny because they didn't use the SPS Jack.
 

Shugster

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I've always thought that a tech charge was an urban myth.

I knew an armourer JT who signed for a LAU N2 bottle fit that was Tech charged when it ended up on the hover pad.... It might have just maybe fallen out of a jet.

Tech charges should exist to keep people on the ball %150.
 

Realist78

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I heard of somebody getting tech charged in the late 90's for dropping a Tornado genny because they didn't use the SPS Jack.

Still never heard of one and to trump your one above, a colleague of mine dropped one tonka genny on top of the other fcuker in the drip tray (cracked like eggs), slapped wrist followed (was in the 80s mind).
 

Shugster

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Tech charges should only exist if techie pay exists.

Why pay other people more money if they have less accountability?
 

I Look Like Kevin Costner

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A sergeant on RSS was busted down to JT for covering up a **** up on a repair to a VC10 tailplane (around 1992). His guys chain drilled into the rear spar chord when doing a top skin repair cutout. They covered the damage up and continued on with the repair. Several months later, the final QA check of the tailplane revieled a crack in the chord at the repair cutline. When the repair plates were removed, the double bond fell out to show the chain line with the crack running through it. He got his rank back after two years, but of course he lost all seniority. Moral of the story is, if you **** up or think you have ****ed up, tell somebody up the chain. It is way less likely to end up in a charge.
 

Talk Wrench

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Tech charges should only exist if techie pay exists.

Why pay other people more money if they have less accountability?


Just like I said in an earlier post.


Tech charges to make a comeback?

What about Admin charges for Shineys who fcuk up ?

What about Supply charges for stackers who can't supply things ?

It might wake them up a little bit as to their responsibilities.

Oh, yeah, Tech Charge should mean Tech Pay.

TW
 

Climebear

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For the last time - there is no such thing as a 'tech charge'. What many peope erroneuosly call a 'tech charge' is a charge of negligently performing a duty.

This charge can be raised for any duty wether it be undertaken by a technical trade or not. Indeed, I have been involved in the processing of many such charges (and similar, such as making a false entry in official documents) over the last 25 years of service. The majority of them have been against non-technical trades (Talk Wrench) irrespective of pay-banding (Shugster).

Yes techies are 'special' but that not so special that they need their own disciplinary code.

So is the ability to prefer such a charge making a comeback - no, because the ability has never gone away.
 
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tech charge

In the mid 80's a numpty pilot got all (tech) chargey on one of the SACs on 18 in Gutersloh for failing to spot a crack in a grill on a BF.

Ground crew decided to perform all tasks by the book for a few days grounding all A/C till they sorted it out...he wasnt charged and lo and behold all the Wokkas started to become servicable again.
 

Shugster

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In the mid 80's a numpty pilot got all (tech) chargey on one of the SACs on 18 in Gutersloh for failing to spot a crack in a grill on a BF.

Ground crew decided to perform all tasks by the book for a few days grounding all A/C till they sorted it out...he wasnt charged and lo and behold all the Wokkas started to become servicable again.

I was threatend with a charge for missing some delamination on a Tonka windscreen. It had been like it for months and no one else who did the BF, TR or AFs reported it. Then the day came when someone reported it on BF and my name was on the previous AF which was carried out in the pitch black.

So my ar5e was singled out for punishment while all the others where good tradesmen.

Had an incident / which hunt like that occurred in civvy straße I could have put my case forward and told them straight. But in the mob you're the lowest rank and therefore have no rights... One aspect I really don't miss as a civvy scumbag.
 
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