Jail For Soldier Who Won't Fight Second Tour

[ivrytwr3]

A soldier has been jailed by court martial after refusing to fight in Afghanistan.






Lance Corporal Joe Glenton went absent without leave (AWOL) rather than serve a second tour in the country. He later campaigned against the conflict.

The 27-year-old was jailed for nine months and reduced to the ranks at a military court in Colchester, Essex, after admitting the AWOL charge.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100305/tuk-jail-for-soldier-who-won-t-fight-sec-45dbed5.html

 

[Weebl]

Bollox.

He was not jailed for refusing to fight. He was Court Martialled for going AWOL.

All the anti war stuff and demonstrations he has attended since are just him attempting to justify it.

If it bothered him that much he would have PVR'd the second he got back from his first tour, but no, he waited till he was warned off to go again, then did one meaning somebody else had to go in his place.

The utter bellend.

 

[Spearmint]

Agreed.

I've no time for dickheads like this one either.

 

[GEM]

Sh1t, Syphillis, my sympathy lies somewhere between, cowardly cnut!

 

[Cooheed]

"He was absent for 737 days before handing himself in", prosecutor Group Captain Tim Backer said.

I always thought the Bill had a part to play in picking people like this up. Must be too busy doing people for blowing their nose at the wheel whilst stationary or feeding ducks etc etc.

 

[Tashy_Man]

Must be too busy doing people for blowing their nose at the wheel whilst stationary or feeding ducks etc etc.

Agree with what you say but slightly Off Topic the bloke who was done for blowing his nose had the charges dropped LINKY but I know what you mean....firking coppers wasting their time on frivolous matters instead of real crime.

Crack on...................DT_Xtremez_09:

Perhaps if he had held out till 747 days he would have got a 'Jumbo' sentence.....

 

[Cooheed]

Agree with what you say

Off TopicCooheed faints.

 

[TrickyTree]

...Perhaps if he had held out till 747 days he would have got a 'Jumbo' sentence.....

And when sending him down maybe the beak would have said "Boeing, Boeing, Gone!" DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[Vman921]

Idiotic cnut!

Idiotic cnut!

If his age is correct and he joined up at say 16 that means he would have been informed that joining the British Army would mean actually fighting some wars.

If he joined up in 1999 when the Kosovo conflict started he should have had an inkling at what was going to be asked of him when he reached 18.

The fcuking tool should have had PVR'd years before he was going to be sent to a conflict zone but no he comes back after his 1st tour, gets pinged again like everyone else, goes AWOL and decides to demonstrate against the war. Clever boy ******.

He should of been sentenced to 737 in the Glass house then sent back to his original unit. If he ends up staying in he will most probs get his rank back up after 18 months of getting out of chokey.

 

[FOMz]

The bloke could have PVR'd - but no, he did a runner. The minute you are 'over the wall' your fate is sealed. Claiming PTSD (which he apparently DIDN'T seek help for) and becoming an Conscientious Objector and joining the anti-war movement... were just all feigns in my opinion.

Shame he wasn't big enough to go back and take the punishment on the chin for doing a runner.

He has cost the tax payers thousands by doing this.

What a ******.

 

[he_who_dares_rodney]

If his age is correct and he joined up at say 16 that means he would have been informed that joining the British Army would mean actually fighting some wars.

.

According to the press up here in York he joined in 2004
So he can hardly claim that a tour came as a shock

I don't beleive a word he says
Dosen't seem to have to many problems cutting about Austrailia and meeting a bird and getting married
He aligned himself to the anti war brigade simply to try and save his own skin


His mother is banging on about how he was bulied so I take it a compo case is inbound

Wonder if his PTSD will manifest itself in Colly

 

[Obi Wan]

According to the press up here in York he joined in 2004
So he can hardly claim that a tour came as a shock

I don't beleive a word he says
Dosen't seem to have to many problems cutting about Austrailia and meeting a bird and getting married
He aligned himself to the anti war brigade simply to try and save his own skin


His mother is banging on about how he was bulied so I take it a compo case is inbound

Wonder if his PTSD will manifest itself in Colly

You should have seen the mad B*tch on the telly. Your right there Looks like a sueemrus case.
DT_Xtremez_30:

 

[Rambling Sid]

Seems like passport control didn't get the message either, according to the BBC website he managed to spend some of his time away in Asia and Australia. Another part of the article made me wonder as well, it said he would spend 2/3rds of his sentence in a "military corrective training center" I assume they are talking about time off for good behavior, or would he spend the last 3 months in a civvie prison. As he hasn't been discharged I bet the lads at his new unit will welcome him with open arms.........

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/8551245.stm

 

[Deserter]

Get what you deserve!

Get what you deserve!

He deserves everything he gets. Join up in the middle of a war and joined the army (should have turned left) what the hell does he and his family expect.DT_Xtremez_34:

 

[ResidentEvil]

As the old cliche goes......he joined the service the service didn't join him!

He will of known what was expected of him when he joined, if after his first tour he didn't feel that in his mind that operations in Afghanistan were right, then he should of PVR'd straight away instead of waiting then objecting to doing his 2nd tour like everyone else have to do.

You can't take the Queens shilling then complain about having to do the work you were recruited to do.

 

[Oberon305]

The fact that he went AWOL is ****e and he's ruined any chance of sympathy that he would have got.

But........having not been out on the ground in Sangin, waching mates die/lose limbs etc, I can't help but feel for him a bit. I'm sure he went through mental anguish deciding to go AWOL in the first place?!?!

Don't get me wrong, he DID join a military service during times of conflict, but he had served in Afghan, which puts him WAY above the likes of most Late-teen, early-20's, hoody-wearing dole-scroungers.

I'm not fishing, it's just that there are 2 sides to every story.

 

[Drill Instructor]

Fair one, there are plenty of individuals in our service playing the system to avoid alot less than he faced.

He should of put his hand up on returning the 1st time though and not get up to the tricks he has over the last few years.

 

[RAF Bird]

But........having not been out on the ground in Sangin, waching mates die/lose limbs etc, I can't help but feel for him a bit..

and you shouldn't feel sorry for him either. Read the article he was RLC.... not infantry out on the ground watching his mates get shot. Yeah maybe he was a driver out and about but definately not out on the ground as per the normal infantryman.

 

[Soon To Leave]

and you shouldn't feel sorry for him either. Read the article he was RLC.... not infantry out on the ground watching his mates get shot. Yeah maybe he was a driver out and about but definately not out on the ground as per the normal infantryman.

Who knows what goes through a persons head? He might have been RLC, but whose to say there isn't more stress in driving a large moving target by yourself driving along mined roads than there is on the ground in the company of your comrades. I dare say the RLC have some involvement in transportation of the dead and injured, which must be very distressing.

I'm not saying the guy in question had a legitimate excuse or he was suffering from PTSD, but if so, PTSD affects different people in different ways.

I don't feel sorry for him or condemn him as without the full and real facts I can't come to any conclusion.

They are right to jail him as there has to be a deterent for any 'crime' regardless of justification and whilst in custody he can at least be properly assessed.

 

[Weebl]

I don't feel sorry for him or condemn him as without the full and real facts I can't come to any conclusion.

They are right to jail him as there has to be a deterent for any 'crime' regardless of justification and whilst in custody he can at least be properly assessed.

What more facts would you like?

He went on a tour, just like thousands and thousands of others.

He got back and made the decision he was staying in the army and he made no move towards any kind of anti war movement.

He then gets warned off to go on another tour, and goes AWOL for more than 2 years, swanning around Australia among other things.

He comes back and hands himself in. At this point he suddenly realises he is against the war and attends marches etc against direct orders from his superiors in an attempt to turn this from 'squaddie goes AWOL for 2 years' into 'squaddie against the war, army going to lock him up'

The army prosecute him for going AWOL, he gets 9 months of which he will do 6?

Fcuk him. If the anti war sentiments were real he would have PVR'd after the first tour, but he was happy to keep taking the queens shilling until he had to go again. Cnut.