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Grand Prix of Europe (Valencia) Preview

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After a 4 week break we return to Grand prix racing with round 11, The Grand Prix of Europe, Valencia.

History
The European Grand Prix was created as an honorific title by the AIACR, the FIA's predecessor in the organisation of motor racing events. The first race to receive the title was the Italian Grand Prix, in 1923. Since then it has been held at various locations across Europe. In 1993, Donington Park hosted The European Grand Prix. This race resulted in Senna's famous victory in wet/dry conditions where he essentially lapped the field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZrMnWpQQB4

1997 saw the race at Jerez, the scene of Häkkinen's first F1 victory. It was also the site of the famous incident between Schumacher and Villeneuve which saw Schumacher get disqualified from the championship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2MeWpZSeL8

The 1999 race at the Nürburgring was notable for the torrential rain conditions which saw many experienced drivers slide off the circuit, presenting Johnny Herbert with the opportunity to take Stewart Grand Prix's first (and only) victory in its final season before being sold to Ford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJgD8_xB2BA
(Apologies for car alarm music!)

The race continued to be held at the Nürburgring until 2007 and then onto Valencia for 2008.


Circuit

valencia_street_circuit.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQb0W0oexRc



Course length, 191.931 miles (308.883 km)
Distance 57 laps, 3.367 miles (5.419 km)


Situated in Valencia's recently-revamped marina area, the layout of the innovative track is challenging, with 25 turns (11 left and 14 right) to test the drivers to the maximum.

After deciding on a harbour-side location, the circuit's designers were keen to use the unique area to its full potential and for most of the lap the action rarely leaves the water's edge. Indeed, at one point the Formula One cars even cross over Valencia's canal, using a swing bridge which has been specially built between the north and the south marina.

Once on the southern side of the port, the cars pass very near to the edge of the quay. After leaving the historic fish market area, the field leaves the docks through the shipyard gates and heads towards the new suburb of Grao. After briefly following the course of the River Turia, the cars then slow for a tight hairpin and progress down the city's Avenida de Francia.

After negotiating a series of 'S' bends, the field then makes a sharp turn to the left and finally enters the home straight, which is situated back in the port area. The pits and team garages are also located in the former port stalls.

While enjoying all the benefits of a street circuit, the new track has also been designed to meet the same modern safety specifications that apply to permanent circuits. The track is at least 14 metres wide along its entire length and also features appropriate run-off areas throughout.
This is a high down force circuit with fuel consumption at approx. 2.5 kg per lap. Expect the track to be slippery on Friday morning, but grip levels will increase as more rubber goes down. This will make set-up tricky and until the track surface settles down no one can be sure if it’s the car or the circuit that is providing the extra speed.

Last Year’s Results & Stats

Pole position
Driver Felipe Massa Ferrari
Time 1:38.989

Fastest lap
Driver Felipe Massa Ferrari
Time 1:38.708 on lap 36

Podium
First Felipe Massa Ferrari
Second Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
Third Robert Kubica BMW Sauber

Most wins (drivers)
Michael Schumacher (6)

Most wins (constructors)

Ferrari (6)

Timetable
Friday 21st August
Practice 1 0900 – 1030
Practice 2 1300 – 1430
Saturday 22nd August
Saturday Practice 1000 – 1100
Qualifying 1300
Sunday 23rd August
Race 1300
All timings are BST.

I am not going to make any predictions because it is too close to call between Red Bull and Brawn, throw in some vastly improving Ferrari’s and McLaren’s and hopefully this year’s race could have some surprises because last year’s race was hardly the most exciting. Hopefully the Renaults will be able to race because no Renault means no Alonso and that would lead to low attendance.
Here’s to a good race!
 

I Look Like Kevin Costner

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Excellent intro Spanners. If Renault are still banned from the meeting, it will defo affect attendance. The stewards will possibly turn this decision on Thursday IMHO. Shame Schumi wasn't fit enough to stage his comeback, he would have been mega. Brawn must be hoping that the temperature in Valencia is sky high.

Red Bull, Mclaren, Ferrari and Brawn will be all in the mix then.
 
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Nice work, Spanners. I can't wait for this weekend, I'm getting withdrawal symptoms.
By the way, the Renault hearing is being held this morning, (Mon) although the results are not expected until Tues PM. I do hope it is overturned.
 

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Renault have been cleared to race on Sunday, instead of the ban, they have been given a £30,000 fine. This has been 1 decision the FIA have got right!
See here

Or here

Thanks for feedback on the thread, I really enjoyed researching the European Grand Prix and gave me a good excuse to look at lots of fantastic videos of yesteryear. Count me in for writing more reviews if you wish.
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At last something to watch on a Sunday again. I can't wait.

I know i am being very cinical? but would Renult have escaped a ban if it wasn't Alonos' home race this weekend? I think that the bottom line won and they realised how much money F1 would loose if he wasn't racing.

Who is in the second car?
 
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grumpyoldb

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At last something to watch on a Sunday again. I can't wait.

I know i am being very cinical? but would Renult have escaped a ban if it wasn't Alonos' home race this weekend? I think that the bottom line won and they realised how much money F1 would loose if he wasn't racing.

Who is in the second car?

Romain Grosjean is expected to be anounced tomorrow.
 

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Brilliant intro Spanners.

Cannot agree more with the comments re something to watch on a Sunday.

Quali could be interesting with Badour unless changes again before the weekend.
 
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grumpyoldb

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It looks like it could be wet for quali.................
 
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MrMasher

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Nice intro Spanners. Its good researching a race and finding the history isnt it?

Well, Valencia has been slightly altered this year linky

More news.....next years qualifying format has been adapted. 8 out in Q1, 8 out in Q2 and the final 10 dont have to qualify with race fuel. Thats the way it should have always been! linky

Both McLaren and Ferrari are rolling out new parts for this race. Should be close up the front.

Dont forget live practice on the BBC red button!
 

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First blood to Rubens, not the first time this season:pDT_Xtremez_42:

Badoer? Way off the pace. Once again I question a decision by Ferrari. Even Piquet or Bourdais would have been better choices?

01 R. Barrichello Brawn GP 1:42.460 19 laps
02 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:42.636 16 laps
03 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:42.654 18 laps
4 J. Button Brawn GP 1:43.074 19 laps
05 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:43.088 17 laps
06 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:43.209 13 laps
07 K. Nakajima Williams 1:43.225 25 laps
08 M. Webber Red Bull 1:43.243 19 laps
09 F. Alonso Renault 1:43.345 18 laps
10 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:43.384 23 laps
11 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:43.389 30 laps
12 R. Kubica BMW 1:43.419 20 laps
13 J. Alguersuari Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:43.637 30 laps
14 N. Rosberg Williams 1:43.746 22 laps
15 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:44.040 23 laps
16 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:44.126 17 laps
17 R. Grosjean Renault 1:44.356 23 laps
18 J. Trulli Toyota 1:44.638 26 laps
19 T. Glock Toyota 1:44.732 28 laps
20 L. Badoer Ferrari 1:45.840 25 laps
 
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I think i have worked out why Ferrari have chosen Badoer over someone else, it is so Raikkonen looks as if he is doing a better job than he really is.

If you can get to a TV with Freeview the practice time can be seen via the 'red button'
 

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I think i have worked out why Ferrari have chosen Badoer over someone else, it is so Raikkonen looks as if he is doing a better job than he really is.

If you can get to a TV with Freeview the practice time can be seen via the 'red button'


Dont forget live practice on the BBC red button!

Wakey wakey!:pDT_Xtremez_30:
 

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Practice 2 times and run down:

Linky

Times
01 F. Alonso Renault 1:39.404 33 laps
02 J. Button Brawn GP 1:40.178 33 laps
03 R. Barrichello Brawn GP 1:40.209 34 laps
04 N. Rosberg Williams 1:40.385 39 laps
05 K. Nakajima Williams 1:40.503 35 laps
06 A. Sutil Force India F1 1:40.596 23 laps
07 R. Kubica BMW 1:40.643 34 laps
08 G. Fisichella Force India F1 1:40.681 31 laps
09 S. Vettel Red Bull 1:40.723 33 laps
10 H. Kovalainen McLaren 1:40.738 31 laps
11 K. Räikkönen Ferrari 1:40.739 39 laps
12 J. Trulli Toyota 1:40.770 32 laps
13 R. Grosjean Renault 1:40.787 35 laps
14 M. Webber Red Bull 1:40.956 37 laps
15 T. Glock Toyota 1:40.985 30 laps
16 S. Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:41.156 34 laps
17 N. Heidfeld BMW 1:41.350 29 laps
18 L. Badoer Ferrari 1:42.017 37 laps
19 J. Alguersuari Scuderia Toro Rosso 1:42.089 34 laps
20 L. Hamilton McLaren 1:43.214 3 laps
 
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grumpyoldb

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Here are the post quali eights...............

Below is the weight of each car following qualifying for the European Grand Prix, sorted by qualifying position.

Pos Driver Weight (kg)
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 653.0
2. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 655.0
3. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 662.5
4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 654.0
5. Button Brawn-Mercedes 661.5
6. Raikkonen Ferrari 661.5
7. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 665.0
8. Alonso Renault 656.5
9. Webber Red Bull-Renault 664.5
10. Kubica BMW-Sauber 657.5
11. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 677.0
12. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 672.5
13. Glock Toyota 694.7
14. Grosjean Renault 677.7
15. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 688.5
16. Fisichella Force India-Mercedes 692.5
17. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 702.0
18. Trulli Toyota 707.3
19. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 678.5
20. Badoer Ferrari 690.5

Not much in it for the front runners...............!
 

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Here are the post quali eights...............

Below is the weight of each car following qualifying for the European Grand Prix, sorted by qualifying position.



Not much in it for the front runners...............!

Beat me to it mate.

Cars 1 and 2 will run away with this I reckon. Jenson is carrying more fuel that Seb, so should leap him. Wherever Brawn will pull a fast one on Rubino remains to be seen, if there is a chance of Button increasing his lead.
 
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grumpyoldb

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Any points that the macca's score are points that red bull can't. Macca's can't win the championship, but they can ruin red bulls chances.
I just hope it isn't processional tomorrow.
 
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