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British Grand Prix 2009 @ Silverstone

I Look Like Kevin Costner

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Well, well, well we come to the 8th round of the 2009 Formula One World Championship and for what is the final time in all probability (unless Bernie changes his mind) to the racetrack that held the first World Championship race 59 years ago. This is the 42nd time that the British grand prix has been held at Silverstone since Giuseppe Farina won the 1950 race in an Alfa Romeo and the circuit has held every event since 1987.

The track layout has been changed considerably since the first races held in 1948, with the first major change being the use of only the perimeter track for the 51 race. The circuit used to vie with Monza (post chicanes) as the fastest track in the seventies and eighties and held the outright fastest qualifying lap from 1985 (Keke Rosbergs 160 MPH Williams Honda pole position speed) until Juan Pablo Montoya eclipsed it at Monza in 2001.

The track was heavily modified for the 1991 race and further revisions to the track were made post Ayrton Senna’s death and the serious testing accident that happened to Pedro Lamy in a Lotus at Silverstone just after. The present track layout is shown below and is 3.194 miles in length.


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Befitting a circuit with the history of Silverstone, all the corners have names. I thought it might be of interest where some of the corners are named as they are and the more memorable incidents that have happened.

The start / finish straight leads into Copse corner. Scene of a few first lap collisions, Copse sets the high speed layout of the first sector of the track. Last year saw Lewis Hamilton dicing with Heikki Kovalainen at the start of the 2008 race.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAJ8u93NZMY&feature=related


From Copse the circuit enters the Beckets complex consisting of Maggots (named after Maggots Moor), Becketts and the Chapel Curve (named after the nearby ruins of the Chapel of Thomas à Beckett). The complex was first used in 1991 and tends not to see much overtaking through it. However it is possible in GP2 (as proven by two of the present F1 protagonists!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b8D0g0SmB0

A good run throught the complex is important for speed down Hangar Straight (named after two aircraft hangars that originally stood next to it) and for any overtaking opertunities into Stowe Corner (from the Stowe School at south of the circuit). Stowe happens to be the best place for overtaking at Silverstone and in the history of the race has seen this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stPsculxjSc

However Stowe also saw this, Schumacher’s worst crash, 10 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woVKLcanlbk

Stowe tightens up in to The Vale and runs down into Club Corner (called after the RAC). Once a 160 MPH curve, Club is now entered in second gear and the cars accelerate through the gears up the Abbey straight. Ayrton Senna never did particulay well in his career with the British GP, only winning once (in 1988) and retiring 4 times in his final 5 races, the last 3 times breaking down at Club. In 1991, everybody remembered this. (Watch out for the Moonie on the Abbey Straight, The bloke involve was dragged off by two policemen straight afterward!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZvx3gFHV7o

The old Abbey Curve (called after the ruins of Luffield Abbey) was modified into a chicane in 94 and leads onto the farm straight and into Bridge Corner. The circuit then becomes a twisty infield section of the Prioy (Luffield abbey again), Brooklands and Luffield (they Abbey!!).

David Coultard finished his last British GP in the kitty litter and Priory saw this happen in 1995 (forget the other crash, that was Italy, however the result of Johnny Herbert winning was the same!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqfSM3R3smo

The last corner is Woodcote (named after the location of the RAC club in Surrey).
The circuit is therefore a many high speed circuit where good aerodynamic downforce is important (however not quite like Turkey).
Timings for the event are :

Fri 19 June 2009

Friday Practice 1 10.00 - 11.30
Friday Practice 2 14.00 - 15.30

Sat 20 June 2009

Saturday Practice 10.00 - 11.00
Qualifying 13.00

Sun 21 June 2009
Race 13.00

The race will be over 60 laps and will cover 191.604 miles. The present lap record is held by Schumacher the elder at 1:18.739.

Well what a difference a year makes. Last year Lewis Hamilton kicked his self made disasters into touch with a fabulous rain meister drive to take command of the WDC, while Honda had their best result for two years due to Barrichello’s wise move to go onto extreme wets. It was a shock to see Ruebens on the podium last year and it will be a shock not to see him on it this year. Silverstone will be another track that I would be very surprised if Brawn is not the leader of the pack on the Sunday, especially if it is dry. If it rains however the Red Bull is proven, if Vettel and Webber can keep them on the black stuff. I cannot see any one else that is likely to spoil the Status Quo. Can Button make it 7 from 8? Will Kimi be seen with an ice cream? Will Hamilton drag his dog of a car into the points? However it will be safe to say that Brawn GP will sell a lot of hats.

I leave this clip I found on youtube for last. It gives a fairly good idea of the atmosphere of a Brit GP crowd and what watching a GP at a circuit is really like..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haIDNgIMj1s
 
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grumpyoldb

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Good preview, mate.
Well researched and put together.:pDT_Xtremez_14:
 

Realist78

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Nice intro mate, will hopefully see the race on telly at Leeuwarden where they are putting us up at a holiday park for 2 weeks. Whatever were they thinking? Another Jenson stroll?
 

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Stonking intro there mate, nice touch adding where the names of the corners came from.
Last went to the GP in Mansells day, suberb atmosphere and the local road network and parking has improved a lot since then as well.
 

Ex-Bay

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Thanks for the informative introduction, particularly the last flick.
Mansell always reckoned that the home crowd was worth 10 seconds a lap.
 

Killer Queen

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Highly informative intro bringing a few distant memories back as well. I would like to think we might have another surprise like a brit one two on the Podium. (i can only hope).
 

Tin basher

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Mansell always reckoned that the home crowd was worth 10 seconds a lap.

10 seconds that's an age in F1 terms XB from the intro

"The present lap record is held by Schumacher the elder at 1:18.739."

So few blokes shouting "Come on Nigel" would get that down to 1:O8.739 I don't think so. :pDT_Xtremez_25:
 

MrMasher

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Come on you buffoons, it was obviously said tongue in cheek!

Nice intro there mate.:pDT_Xtremez_30:


As always keep an eye out on your BBC red button. 3001 for the sport multi screen, then check to see what reruns and reviews they are showing.
 
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grumpyoldb

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Come on you buffoons, it was obviously said tongue in cheek!

Nice intro there mate.:pDT_Xtremez_30:


As always keep an eye out on your BBC red button. 3001 for the sport multi screen, then check to see what reruns and reviews they are showing.

'Kinnel. I thought you'd gone awol....................!:pDT_Xtremez_42:
 

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Great info and going to print it off as myself and Mrs LR will be stationed on the pit straight all weekend, staying over in a nearby holiday cottage so really looking forward to it


pictures to follow sometime Monday PM when we get back
 

I Look Like Kevin Costner

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Come on you buffoons, it was obviously said tongue in cheek!

Nice intro there mate.:pDT_Xtremez_30:


As always keep an eye out on your BBC red button. 3001 for the sport multi screen, then check to see what reruns and reviews they are showing.

And the re run is what I'll be watching because I'm working on Saturday and Sunday! Joys of the recession & I wish I had brought tickets in Feburary!!

LR, have a great time and hopefully the crowd will be celebrating a Brit win, the place explodes when that happens..
 
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grumpyoldb

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Here's the latest weather forecast for the weekend. Looks like a wet quali.
 

Parky

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That could be very interesting.

I know that race fuel has to go through final quali but are the teams allowed to change the setup of the wings etc. for a dry race?
 

MrMasher

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That could be very interesting.

I know that race fuel has to go through final quali but are the teams allowed to change the setup of the wings etc. for a dry race?

Yes. Park ferme allows set up changes from wet to dry and vice versa.
 

spanners

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Well done must go to Williams, both cars in Q3 and 5th for Kazuki Nakajima, almost unseen by the cameras.
 
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grumpyoldb

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This'll be interesting when the weights are released later.
Interesting grid though, and the weather is still uncertain.
 

MrMasher

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'Kinnel. I thought you'd gone awol....................!:pDT_Xtremez_42:
You don't get rid of me that easily!:pDT_Xtremez_32:



I reckon Webber is the one to watch, although I expect when the weights are issued I'll be proven wrong!
Nice to see some competition for a change. We need the Red Bulls getting the top two steps to spice it up a bit. Its getting boring watching Schumach......I mean Button winning all the time!
 
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