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The British GP @ that place that first held it 60 years ago!

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Well, well, well, time for our home race and for the golden jubilee of Silverstone as a grand prix venue. The British race shares the distinction with the Italian GP of being the longest continually run GP in the world. The first British GP’s were held pre war at Brooklands, but it was in 1948 that Silverstone held the first post war event at the former World War Two airfield in Northamptonshire. Luigi Villoresi won on the circuits set on the perimeter track and runways (the standard three runway layout giving the outlining basic shape). It was the 1950 race that saw the start of the F1 World Championship (won by the first world champion Farina). The curcuit used dispensed with the runways and then remained unchanged for 25 years!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOm2U6zjQGQ

By the end of the fifties Silverstone had competition as a venue from Aintree (yes the Grand National circuit alternated with Silverstone between 1955 and 1962) and from the mid sixties to the mid eightes, alternating with Brands Hatch. British winners at all the venues included Stirling Moss, Tony Brooks (sharing with Moss), Peter Collins, Jim Clark (bar 66, from 62 until his death in 68), Jackie Stewart (68 and 71), Hunt the Shunt, John Watson and Mansell’s first win in 86. As speeds grew the first chicane was put in at Woodcote corner after an massive accident in 1973 started by Jody Sckechter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C4WYqvlq40

The tracks open sweeping corners and long straights had always allow Silverstone to vie with Monza as the fastest track on the calender, and Keke Rosbergs 1985 qualifying lap of 160 MPH was the fastest speed that at GP car had lapped a curcuit until Montoya suppased it at Monza, 16 years later.

Silverstone won the right from Bernie to exclusivily hold the event in 1987 and it has been held there ever since. A proper chincane at the transfer bridge replaced the Woodcote, however 87 is remembered for the stunning pass Nige made over Nelson Piquet in the sister Williams Honda into Stowe during the penuatlimae lap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8nGaXoxaHI

Mansell was always strong there, being second in 88, 89 and retiring in 90 while having led after another beautiful pass of Senna's Mclaren MP4-5B in his Ferrari 642.

The track had major alterations in the winter of 90/91. The profile of Corpse corner from the main straight was changed as was Maggots , becoming the entrance to the Becketts Complex of sweeping curves exiting out of the Chapel corner and onto the Hanger Straight. Stowe corner was tightened and a new feature called Vale , replace the old striaght into Club corner. The straight from Club ran into the Abbey corner (coverted into a chincane in 94) and then down to a monster corner known as Bridge that led into the Priory / Brooklands / Luffield complex before rejoining the old circuit for Woodcote and the finishing line. Mansell and the Williams FW14 /14B combo’s were awesome in 91 and 92, winning with ease.

Prost took an easy win from Schumi in 93 , Hills leading FW15 having retired with engine failure while in the lead but Damon won the gold trophy (his father never had) , the following year after Schumachers black flag debacale. 1995 saw Johnny Herbert break his GP duck and the end of the decade was David Coultards turn with a double in 99 / 00 , including the ridiculously timed Easter GP mudbath and in the previous year, Schumi's worst accident in F1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2W4cP6QaNI&feature=related

The most wins is shared by Clark and Prost with 5, while the Silverstone record is the Frenchmans as all his wins occurred at the track. The most sucessful team record is jointly held by Ferrari and Mclaren with 13 wins each. The present lap record is held by Michael Schumacher of 1 minute18.739 seconds set in 2004 (having won the race 3 times in 98, 02 and the year of the lap record). Aryton Senna only won the race once! He is more famously known at Silverstone for parking his car at Club corner 3 years in a row and being picked up the first time by Mansell's Williams victory taxi! I saw (very happily) all Senna’s Club parking antics with my own eyes (as Club was my favourite spot!!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8dfNvAvHTA

Well that’s the History, who is going to win this year’s 191.755 mile, 60 lap race??
Well, all the fast sweeping corners that are similar in characteristics to Magny-Cours should make the red cars overwhelming favourites. Kimi Räikkönen won easily from the Mclarens last year. Hamilton was on pole, but he made his first mistake of 2007 on his first pit stop. This mistake would not have made any difference as the Ferrari’s long wheel base balance and better use of the Bridgestone’s compared to the Mclarens won the day then, and all things being equal probably be the same this year. The podium should be the Ferraris and Hamilton. The midfield battle should be very tight again. Kubica was consistent in France but the BMW didn’t seem to like Magny very much. Will it have problems at Silverstone too? Can Nick H actually complete with his team mate? The Red Bulls seemed to lose race pace in France compared to qualifying but I would expect DC to do well in what is his 15th and possibly last British race. It will be a brave man that bets against Ferrari increasing their championship lead in both title battles!

Getting in and out of the circuit is a lot easier since the dualling of the A43 and the crowd limitations have reduced the ridiculous times it took to leave (In 91 it took me 5 Hours!)

Off TopicA good place to go before the race on a Saturday evening is the Old Towcestians beer tent (near the Club corner entrance). A great meeting place and open to fairly late. Watched the Brazil v Holland World cup game of 94 there. What an atmosphere. Most people were supporting the land of Senna for some reason! The circuit is also good for "chopper spotting" over the weekend!


Off TopicOh.. I forgot this fact. Some low flying jet aircraft propably will overfly the place on race Sunday. Can the part time experts that frequent PPRuNe, recognize what these are??:pDT_Xtremez_31:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RH0xquuweI
 
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Superb intro mate :pDT_Xtremez_30:

As a track, I like Silverstone. It usually chucks us a good race, especially when wet! I play on the F1 game on my PS3 to refresh my memory on the tracks before the race and Silverstone is brilliant. I mostly biff up the first corner, high speed and pretty blind! Becketts is a challenge to get the right line as well.
Becketts is amazing, the change of direction must hurt their eyeballs!

As for the outcome of this race, I have a sneaking suspicion that Ferrari will be pretty dominant. I've just got this underlying fear that its Kimi's turn to suffer the unreliabilities and Massa has the run of things.:pDT_Xtremez_21:
But then, Kimi was 20 points behind this time last year and he just managed to haul that back through the rest of the season.
Dont write off the McLarens though. Testing on Weds saw Heikki go fastest usurping Massa from the top.

I hope BMW get their pace back and Honda should do better. I believe they are adding some revisions to their car this time.
 

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Sorry about the underlining, I cant get rid of it!


Rather than clutter the goat with another F1 related thread I'd thought I'd post it here.

I watched a documentary Which I recorded from BBC4 the other day. It was entitled Graham Hill; Driven.
This is a small clip from it on the tube.
Anyone else see it?
http://http://youtube.com/watch?v=sDTVe6pNv4s

I didnt really know much about the chap, apart from the fact that he was Damon's dad.
What a bloke! He seemed to be a really nice chap, always out with the quips and a right ladies man! How his wife put up with it I'll never know. It really impressed upon me how much they went through in those days.
Hill partnered Jackie Stewart and Stewart had crashed his car in a ditch and was stuck in it. Hill came past, stopped and helped him out. It took half an hour to free him from the wreckage and he managed to strip Stewart of his clothes whilst at it, down to fuel all over him.
You get the sense that the drivers were all best of mates, partying and holidaying together. A really tight bond.
It must have been awful to lose so many friends, alot died during the races in those days.

Graham Hill so far is the only man to have won the triple crown of F1 World Champ, Indy 500 and Le Mans 24 Hours. (Jacques Villeneuve is coming close, just needing the Le Mans win)

He was the master of Monaco and won there 5 times.
In all he took part in 176 GPs and won 14 of them and was World Champ in '62 and '68.

The house where the Hills used to live has now had a blue plaque put on the wall by someone like the English Heritage Society. Nice to see the man is honoured somewhere.
He died in a plane crash which occurred on a golf course. There is a small plaque there which was shown on the program. An utter disgrace in my opinion. It needs the brass polishing and the wood varnishing.

They dont make em like that anymore, do they? What a top notch bloke and a damned good racer to boot!



Another Hill I spotted in the press was Damon. As president of the BRDC he has been talking about Silverstone and the fact that it isnt yet secure as a F1 race venue! Again??
Linky
It needs more money spending on the pit and paddocks for which it has recieved planning permission.
 
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Sorry about the underlining, I cant get rid of it!


Rather than clutter the goat with another F1 related thread I'd thought I'd post it here.

I watched a documentary Which I recorded from BBC4 the other day. It was entitled Graham Hill; Driven.
This is a small clip from it on the tube.
Anyone else see it?

An excellent documentary. Damon was similar to his dad in respect of his driving skills, not the greatest, but exceedingly good. The days when cars looked like cars and slipstreaming battles were commonly, the order of the day.:pDT_Xtremez_19:
 

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Off Topic I said in the French thread about the GP conflicting with Wimbledon and was it worth putting a bet on a Scottish Double?

I've changed that to NADAL /ALONSO :pDT_Xtremez_31::pDT_Xtremez_31:
 

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Off Topic I cant belive I actually saw the miserable git smile!! Murray that is......
 

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What's the weather like this weekend?

What's the weather like this weekend?

Seen the forecast for this weekend.

Its CR*P

Lots of WIND

Lots of RAIN!!:pDT_Xtremez_31:

10 points to Hamilton!
 

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I reckon someone is destined for banger car racing, theres an underlying theme appearing....linky....

Ross Brawn reckons Honda are up for it after improvements on most areas of their car. Jensons good in the wet!

Also, the Batmobile will be racing........:pDT_Xtremez_31:
 

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Hmmmmmm, it seems my fave driver has received an award for Global Diversity relating to the way he dealt with racism in Spain.

I wonder where Alonso's award is from his racism at Silverstone?
 

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Practice 1 times:
1. MASSA Ferrari 1m19.575s
2. KOVALAINEN McLaren 1m19.587s
3. HAMILTON McLaren 1m19.623s
4. RAIKKONEN Ferrari 1m19.948s
5. KUBICA BMW 1m20.367s
6. ALONSO Renault 1m20.436s
7. VETTEL Toro Rosso 1m20.588s
8. PIQUET Renault 1m20.653s
9. COULTHARD Red Bull 1m20.698s
10. ROSBERG Williams 1m20.744s
11. WEBBER Red Bull 1m20.892s
12. GLOCK Toyota 1m21.102s
13. HEIDFELD BMW 1m21.107s
14. BOURDAIS Toro Rosso 1m21.166s
15. TRULLI Toyota 1m21.265s
16. NAKAJIMA Williams 1m21.282s
17. BUTTON Honda 1m21.901s
18. SUTIL Force India 1m22.169s
19. FISICHELLA Force India 1m22.219s
20. BARRICHELLO Honda 1m24.123s

It seems Alonso dropped some oil after an engine blow at the end of hangar straight, Massa swapped ends through it and stuffed it in!
 

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A quality intro to a thread it must be said ILLKC, I cant see Hamilton doing it this weekend but you never know, if he can keep it on the track chasing the Ferrari's then he should be good for third as long as his team monitors his tyres properly!!
In the Mail today is a little piece on Murry and he is trying to get into the BBC as a comentator next year, don't get me wrong here but the guy was awsome in his day and we loved him when racing was racing but he ended up making mistake after mistake in the end and I wouldn't want him to spoil his history.
 
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