Key Workers?

[The-Dark-One]

Dark one

Mrs Techie happens to be a nurse. You tell her that she's riding the gravy train, I'm sure she'd beg to differ. Do 3 years at uni and run up big debts, starting wage less than coppers/trumpton, poor working conditions, overstretch within the NHS and a lack of jobs once qualified thanks to all the foreign imports employed by trust me tone and his bunch of retards.
We tried for the key workers last year, only to be told the pot of money had dried up. It's not as straight forward as it all looks so before you slate something have a good look first.

You tell her for me if you like. Hmm, some sort of money management skills perhaps need to be added to their course? :raf:

 

[firestorm]

I pay £220 a month for a three bed semi with garage at ISK.

Thanks GT. Is this an average throughout the RAF? What about living in?

Ta again.

 

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[Boarderlyne]

Bean stealers pay around £80 a month and Singlies pay in the region of £150 a month more or less depending on being in the gucci block for more or the Sh1t hole for less.

 

[firestorm]

Thanks for the info.

I'm not too sure if some of the contributors of the thread understand the key worker concept.

 

[RAF_Nurse!]

My station (? RAF wide) has just announced a down-grading of SFA 'rents'(The old
DHE apparently didnt like us calling it rent, it is a contribution according to them!).

I live in what was a grade 2, type C SFA but is now to be a grade 3. The quarters will never be brought into line with civvy street because the money just isnt there to ready 'em to that level. Plain and simple.

 

[fat lazy techie]

Dark one

You really are a prize prick. I'm sorry it took so long to bite but I've not looked on this thread for a while. For your info student nurses got, when Mrs Techie did her training, £450 per month. Fine and dandy you may think. Not when you have to drive to Bristol and back 5 times a week from Lyneham. Then on placement to Swindon and back 5 times a week, not to mention live. All of a sudden it don't go too far. Money management skills lessons on top of full time study/work isn't relevant to the course. I'll tell you what, drag your sorry ass off to the nearest uni that does nurse training and spout your drivel there. I've said it once and I'll say it again, you are a prick!!

 

[katinthehat]

Dark one

You really are a prize prick. I'm sorry it took so long to bite but I've not looked on this thread for a while. For your info student nurses got, when Mrs Techie did her training, £450 per month. Fine and dandy you may think. Not when you have to drive to Bristol and back 5 times a week from Lyneham. Then on placement to Swindon and back 5 times a week, not to mention live. All of a sudden it don't go too far. Money management skills lessons on top of full time study/work isn't relevant to the course. I'll tell you what, drag your sorry ass off to the nearest uni that does nurse training and spout your drivel there. I've said it once and I'll say it again, you are a prick!!

Er I hate to say this, but health workers at least get PAID to go and do their training. What about the rest who have to survive on student loans alone? Not so good when you look at it that way.

We used to be in a type c grade 4, 3 bed semi, paying £86 a month! Bargain!
We moved - and now pay £260 a month for a 3 bed semi.... big jump, when Tax Credits tell you you earn too much to get bu66er all help from them, have debts from a very nasty divorce, cant get any help from Tax Credits either for Child Care, and pay over £250 a month for that. Im a mature Student, as of September, but I only qualify for a maintenance loan - so have £3k worth of tuition fees to find from nowhere! They assess your entitlement based on your earnings, not whats left after everything has been taken out!
It works out we will be feeding a family of 4 on £60 a week, if we are lucky!!!

Key workers? RAF? Youre damned right! The Fire service & police have houses like quarters too where I am from - but they can buy them, at a reduced rate. Perhaps if some of the Quarters we have are gonna cost too much to do up, why cant we buy them at a reduced rate?
And why when quarters are sold off by Annington, do we not get
a) first chance to buy
b) reduced rates

The local council district I used to live in had a 10yr waiting list for houses - unless you wanted a place on the roughest council estate in the County!! No ta!! Even when I was a single parent at one point, the council wouldnt house me as I was working - and earning a fortune (under 10k!).

Im not doubting that teachers etc get a rough deal too - but I do think the Forces should be given some extra help too. And no, the Advance of Pay thing is not enough now either, before someone mentions that.
In my local area, 6yrs ago I bought a 3 bed semi, in a sought after village, big garden, conservatory, the works - for 50k. A 3 bed terrace in town would cost you 30k.
Skip forward to 2003, and a 3 bed semi cost 90k, so god knows what my Ex is sitting on with our old house, at least 150k i imagine.

Sometimes circumstances, not bad money management, prevent you from buying a house. Hindsight is a wonderful thing - I should have bought a place when I was single at 18 at a cost of 15k, and now had a whopping 150k profit!!!


Sorry to rant on, but this is my big thing - the Forces are treated like second class citizens, next to the Nurses, Teachers, Fire Service etc. You always see about the unfair treatment they receieve in the press - isnt it time some papp told OUR story too??? I think Joe Bloggs in the UK public thinks we are onto a good thing.... if only they knew!!!

 

[fat lazy techie]

Kat

Yes student nurses do get a bursary during their 3 years of study if doing the diploma, not so sure about the degree students though. You may think that's good, but when you consider they have to do the same as a staff nurse during their placements (working shifts, etc) and get no extra for it then you may need to look at it again. That was in the days when you were garaunted a job at the end of it. Things ain't so rosy for those studying nursing now thanks to the clowns in charge.

 

[katinthehat]

Kat

Yes student nurses do get a bursary during their 3 years of study if doing the diploma, not so sure about the degree students though. You may think that's good, but when you consider they have to do the same as a staff nurse during their placements (working shifts, etc) and get no extra for it then you may need to look at it again. That was in the days when you were garaunted a job at the end of it. Things ain't so rosy for those studying nursing now thanks to the clowns in charge.

I know exactly what the probs are now hun - I was going to study midwifery, but changed my mind, as it wasnt a good move when you have kids, with the shifts etc.
I wasnt saying it was easy for them - just that they are not the only ones who get sh@t on.

 

[fat lazy techie]

Yes but they are an easy target.

 

[katinthehat]

Yes but they are an easy target.

as are the forces... but they have no way of publicising the fact.

 

[firestorm]

Key workers? RAF? Youre damned right! The Fire service & police have houses like quarters too where I am from - but they can buy them, at a reduced rate. Perhaps if some of the Quarters we have are gonna cost too much to do up, why cant we buy them at a reduced rate?

sorry to rant on, but this is my big thing - the Forces are treated like second class citizens, next to the Nurses, Teachers, Fire Service etc.

I have no idea where you live, but I can say that is just not the case for the majority of firefighters in the UK. Living accommodation is a thing of the past for us.
Key worker housing is shared ownership housing in the vicinity of where you work. While the RAF provides quarters and accomodation you simply won't get on the key worker scheme.

I work in London and on my watch of 15 only 2 live in London. The rest of us live within a 50 or 60 mile radius of our place of work as its simply too expensive to live in London.

From where I sit I really don't agree that I'm treated as a first class citizen compared to forces. I think we are all pretty well dumped on, but thats what happens when your employers are politicians.