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They really do think they are above the Rules / Law
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Cant read the full article it as its full of clickbait sh!te,, but from the headline, if he's failed a drugs test, he should face exactly the same result as if it were Private X.
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Criminal convictions. Should stop gravy train jobs with one.
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Here you go ...
Lieutenant colonel faces the sack after becoming the most senior Army officer known to have failed a drugs test
- Shamed officer, who is paid around £80,000, was caught at a base in Cyprus
- Test is said to have proved he was taking illegal steroid of Class C categorisation
- It is unheard of for lieutenant colonel who served for decades to fail drugs test
A lieutenant colonel is facing dismissal after becoming the most senior Army officer known to have failed a drugs test, the Daily Mail can reveal.
The shamed officer, who is paid around £80,000, was caught at a British Army base in Cyprus.
The vast majority of troops who fail Compulsory Drugs Tests (CDTs) are young private soldiers, lance corporals and corporals, the Army's three lowest ranks.
Most commonly these inexperienced soldiers are caught having been persuaded to take cocaine or a cocktail of banned substances on a night out.
If officers suspect they have taken drugs, tests are arranged as quickly as possible, reducing their chance to flush the narcotics out of their system by drinking water.
For any officer to be caught taking an illegal substance is rare but it is unheard of for a lieutenant colonel who has served in the Armed Forces for decades to fail a drugs test.
A lieutenant colonel is facing dismissal after becoming the most senior Army officer known to have failed a drugs test, the Daily Mail can reveal (stock image)
The senior officer is now fighting to save his career. The recent test is said to have proved he was taking an illegal steroid with a Class C categorisation under the UK's Misuse of Drugs Act.
He is apparently claiming that he requires the drug as a painkiller. But, according to defence sources, the drug had not been prescribed by a British doctor and he is understood not to have declared he was taking it before the test.
Last night, the Ministry of Defence confirmed that administrative action was being taken against the lieutenant colonel, who is contesting the most likely sanction against him – dismissal and loss of pension.
Troops who fail CDTs may be granted waivers but only if they are particularly young or inexperienced, or there are significant mitigating circumstances and commanders are convinced they made a one-off misjudgment that will not be repeated.
While in recent years waiver protocols have been massaged to reprieve soldiers who the Army is eager to keep – for example when they possess skills and experience that are in short supply – it is considered highly unlikely that any exception would be made for a lieutenant colonel.
The shamed officer, who is paid around £80,000, was caught at a British Army base in Cyprus (stock image)
Last night one soldier said: 'Junior ranks have been kicked out for taking Class C substances so officers should be too. Really committed soldiers were booted out for taking performance-enhancing "gym drugs" in recent years. They should have been retained.
'An officer with his rank and experience should definitely have known better. It can't be one rule for him and another for everyone else.'
An MoD spokesman said: 'Administrative action for this case is ongoing and as such it would be inappropriate to comment further at this stage.
'The Army does not tolerate drugs misuse by service personnel. Those found to have fallen short of the Army's high standards face being discharged from service.'
Earlier this year it emerged that ten elite soldiers are facing dismissal from the Army's new £120million high-tech unit, the Experimentation Battlegroup, after being caught taking cocaine in Cyprus. They failed drugs tests at their base.
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Cheers Barch. My thoughts on his punishment remain the same. I've live my life adhering to the principle of "Parity of Treatment", and that the rules/law apply to everyone, regarless of rank/status/colour/creed.
That is a cornerstone of living in a civilised democracy rather than a dictatorship.
That is a cornerstone of living in a civilised democracy rather than a dictatorship.
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Demote him to Captain.. Captain Snortt..
fourteen2two
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One rule for all, he should be setting an example. Hope he gets sacked.
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I have no idea whether or not he was guilty, that is for others to decide. But if he is then he gets the same as a junior soldier & a bit on top - the rules are there for all but he should have known better and demonstrated leadership.
Is it me, or has their been a distinct spate in recent months of officers at quite senior ranks being a) caught up to no good & b) facing the consequences (e.g. 3 courts martial for boarding school allowance fraud)? Does this indicate that dodginess at those levels is on the rise or does it just show that the levels of dodginness are the same but the plods are looking harder at those levels than before? A change of senior leadership direction perhaps?
Wobbly_Jon
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He's as guilty as sin,,,,
Surely if he was taking medication for 'pain' it would have been prescribed by the unit MO.
Using a none prescribed 'medication' containing a Class C steroid and not declaring it t the drugs test determines his guilt. If the Sh!t he was taking was legit then no problem declaring it.
If it was some grunt or erk they'd get the bums rush straight to Civvy Street.
Surely if he was taking medication for 'pain' it would have been prescribed by the unit MO.
Using a none prescribed 'medication' containing a Class C steroid and not declaring it t the drugs test determines his guilt. If the Sh!t he was taking was legit then no problem declaring it.
If it was some grunt or erk they'd get the bums rush straight to Civvy Street.
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Ideal opportunity to see how, in this brave new world of equality and fairness, he is treated. Will that be in the same draconian fashion as a lowly brown job at the bottom of the food chain. It would be nice to think that the bad old days of one rule for them and one for other ranks is now just a footnote in history. I have my doubts I expect a convenient wriggle room solution will soon be discovered.
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More bad PR for the Army.
www.dailymail.co.uk
Three weeks FFS Three weeks
Soldier who lay dead in barracks for three weeks 'was failed by Army'
The decomposing corpse of Lance Corporal Bernard Mongan, 33, was discovered in Catterick Barracks, North Yorkshire, on January 23 last year. No one realised he was missing for 21 days.
Three weeks FFS Three weeks
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Over Christmas, between postings. Losing unit thought he'd gone, gaining unit thought he hadn't arrived yet. Easy done..... It's easy to criticise (as the media will) but it does highlight the need for duty staff over grant periods to know who's around & where they are. Yet how many of us have been singlies on camp at weekends & grant periods & would have resented having to check in/out, especially if we weren't actually working?
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Surprised it wasn't caught earlier and swept under the carpet with an early retirement and full pension.
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Glad it wasn't personally!! Sounds bad but he should have known better. Get the impression there is a wind of change at MOD. They know now that with 24 hour news coverage, internet and journos always on the case information will get out there. Journos are a necessary evil and its what we need to keep the MOD hypocrisy and incompetence in check!!!
SAXAVORDIAN
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Me thinks a purge has taken place. The officer taken a C class drug (steroid) Athletes get caught with such measure. But doesn't mention what other drugs taken. The report glossing over by soldiers using Cocaine and mix cocktails, was the Officer in question using Cocaine a class A drug still Heroin Class A still. Agree if these or similar drugs was used Guilty. Class C would be a slapped wrist and visit to Insworth or Colchester unless things have changed.