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My time at oasc 01/04/14

Nick.

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Hello to anyone who is reading this thread. I recently returned from OASC. A couple of the guys on here thought it might be nice to detail my accounts for any one who is due to attend. I went for Regiment officer so aptitude testing was not part of my application.
I arrived on a Tuesday and to be honest it was quite a straight forward procedure. Be there before four, sign in at guardroom, go to candidates mess and then await a meal and a chin wag with other candidates prior to head down and early start.
Awake 06:00 for breakfast at 06:30 and then over to the training reception rooms at Cranwell where you will be given your clothes, syndicate and a number. You are told to get conversing as these are your friends for the rest of the day and share ideas prior to the tasks which were about to commence.
My syndicate was named Foxtrot syndicate and there were four syndicates comprising of five people each. Once everyone was ready we were led upstairs and told to wait in a candidates rest room and each syndicate had their own designated task room which when called upon you had to go and wait outside in numerical order. Number one will knock on the door and the boarding officers will shout "COME IN FOXTROT SYNDICATE" and obviously you enter...
The days tasks are;
  • GROUP DISCUSSION
  • GROUP PLANNING EXERCISE
  • NO LEADER HANGAR EXERCISE
  • LEADER HANGAR EXERCISE (every one in syndicate gets a turn)
  • INDIVIDUAL PLANNING EXERCISE.
Group discussion. This for me was fine as I can talk the legs of a donkey and basically my advice is make your self heard. Our three topics were;
  1. Do prisons in the UK work
  2. Wind farms yes or no
  3. Should the national lottery be used to help fund the NHS.
The guys in my syndicate were all very knowledgeable, 3 are serving airmen so projection and posture were of a high standard and it was easy for me to get involved. People were using different tactics such as trying to involve others who may have been a bit less vocal by saying "I think this x x x x what do you think number 2?? etc etc but basically I held my own and made sure my projection was loud enough and and my opinions were heard. Please let me say I have not had my results back yet so this is just my experience so please use your own judgement.

Group planning exercise. This for me was the hardest of all the days tasks. It was the time scale which I totally did not plan for. Maths wise nothing too out of the ordinary and this thread I found on studentsroom is more than ample for that aspect;- http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501724. Absolute monster of a thread.
But what I had not planned for is a system for addressing the task. The task was, a neighbouring country had been involved with an earthquake. I was the officer in charge of logistics and I had to make a plan using two/three aircraft and get aid to the relief zone. We had twenty mins to read the text and some thing crazy like three mins to make the plan for which I had not wrote more than three lines when the time ran out and at which point my confidence headed south for the winter. After this time the group discuss all the plans as a group and luckily two of the five candidates had managed a plan between them. For me I was honest as my thinking was better a fool and say my plan was poor and get a working plan from the syndicate than to sit there quiet and not say any thing. This enabled me to take bits from their plan and lucky I did as after a time spell of around another three minutes the officers pick random numbers from the syndicate and ask you explain the joint plan. Then you are asked are you happy any more questions etc etc and back to the communal waiting room. My advice would be - WHO ARE YOU - WHAT IS NEEDED - WHAT EQUIPMENT DO YOU HAVE - WHAT SPECIAL HURDLES ARE THERE E.G plane b is too big to land at runway x etc etc. After which a few of the guys said they manually re draw the map and put where all the components of the task were on it to better visualise which, I copied in the individual planning exercise and it definitely helped me.

Leaderless hangar exercise. Everything is done at pace so straight from the group tasks and in to the freezing hangar ready for your presentation were you are given the rules of the hangar "STEPPING ON....STEPPING OFF". You are then taken to an obstacle and the officers give you a brief.... "All equipment and personnel must go from A to B, no touching the floor" and boom off you go. For this I cant really give advise other than get stuck in and at all times no matter how crazy your idea "MAKE IT HEARD" I caps locked that as it was a statement said to us over and over.
Just for the record let it be noted who ever invented the hangar tasks are on another level. At times you are lifting a box with a piece of string over a seven feet platform looking around thinking please don't touch the red, please don't touch the red (red is out of bounds, white in-bounds - touch the red get a penalty.)

Leader exercise. Quick lunch stop prior of sandwiches and then as above but this time you are in charge. You have two minutes to assess the obstacle whilst your syndicate sit in a booth awaiting your "FOXTROT SYNDICATE" command at which point its double over as fast as you can from your booth to the leader. Then you must "THE OBJECT OF THE EXERCISE IS TO GET FROM A TO B - YOU MUST APPLY TO ALL RULES - THERE HAS BEEN A SPECIAL EXCEPTION IN THIS TASK AND YOU CAN TOUCH THE FLOOR AT POINT B" etc etc all the time whilst being assessed by two to three officers taking notes for the duration. Its quite daunting as I have no military background and the pace and professionalism is quite intimidating. Then when your time limit is up and all five had a go it was over and back upstairs for the final task.

Individual planning exercise. I mentioned the group planning above, this is very similar but this time its all down to you and you must then go present your answers to the board by your self. This task has a numerical speed distance time grid on it so the maths is none existent as you literally use the grid and it tells you. This is what I had miss understood as I believed the individual planning would be the hardest task of the day but the group planning has no grid and that is all from your head so if you thought like me be aware. Basically my task was a friend had let you down, you needed a train before X o'clock - sort it. Not too bad to be honest.

END OF DAY ONE.
Many stayed up had a drink i believe the football was on but I retired to my room as next day was fitness tests and interview so I didn't feel like a drink.

DAY TWO.
The cut - basically after breakfast you are all taken over to candidates reception and quite simply told to sit there or sit there. Those on the left (or back of room actually) are kept for interview and those on the right, sorry not this time. It really is as cut throat as that and you have no idea which half is going or staying for around fifteen minutes. We lost a third of applicants and luckily I was kept.

Then the long wait for interview. The pace of the day in comparison to the day before is a lot slower. The interview for me went OK'ish and the advice of the filter interview being exactly the same I found not to be so true. many questions were not asked in filter and they asked them in different ways such as filter = What current operations are the RAF currently involved in? OASC = who are our current enemies? I know this is trivial but this is one example of a question which I remember. I found they are more interested in what you don't know rather than what you do. If you look savvy on a topic they will move on quickly but if you start to fumble they dig dig dig until the famous " I don't know sir" comes out.

Fitness test. You are then taken by bus to a gym. Then its 2.4 km, max push ups 60 seconds and max situps sixty seconds. Then simply......WELL DONE YOU HAVE COMPLETED OASC. Please go home and sit agonisingly for a month waiting for your letter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Which I am now two weeks in to.

Thank you for reading and hope this can be of help to some one.

Nick.
 

Stevienics

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Nice work. Won't be long now for that letter. Get used to the waiting.

It's worth it.
 
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Great explanation of OASC

Great explanation of OASC

That was a very good summary of the OASC Selection board. It may even (hello mods) be worthy of being stickied for a period as this is exactly the format of OASC at the current time and would be a good guide for others, in the same vein as the PRTC thread.

Nick: I did exactly the same thing (although our planning exercises were different) three weeks ago. It all went well, I even enjoyed it! However, I am still waiting - have you heard anything back from them? It would be great to know how you did.
I have kept in touch with friends who attended earlier than I did, and the waiting times vary enormously - some heard within three days, however some are still waiting. I know it has a lot to do with phase two/specialist training dates, but if other candidates could share their waiting times (regardless of whether they received a positive or a negative reply) then this would certainly help to alleviate my own current state of paranoia to a certain extent!
 

Nick.

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Time for reply.

Time for reply.

It was three years now since I went to OASC and I still remember the experience fondly. For any one waiting for the painfully slow letter it took 8 weeks to arrive. I was unsuccessful. The summary said I was able to re-apply within 12 months with lots of positives but as detailed in my summary above it was my group planning exercise which let me down and they mentioned about the impact on my family and that they were not convinced I had truly thought it through.
I was devastated to be honest. I though I wouldn't be sat here if I hadn't of thought it through!!! They mentioned in order to show willing prior to the retest in 12 months I could join the reservists at Waddington (2503) which to them would show my determination and also rule out any doubt about being away from my kids over the initial training phases.
I went to Waddington and was offered a place in the reserves. Then no sooner had I decided that I was joining, the RAF closed the job opening for regiment officer so I was back to ground zero. I thought deep down it may have been a bit of a con to get another reservist and once I had done it, it would have been the end of the full time career. This was wrong of me and I wasn't thinking straight but the main reason for my application was that I was deeply unhappy with what was then my full time employment.
I was gutted as due to a failed medical in the application and Capita health care being a nightmare it took two years start to finish and I had genuinely dedicated my life for that period - only then be unsuccessful at OASC.
I decided with my wife not being able to bare the ups and downs any more to knock it on the head.
What now?? I was looking frantically at existing available positions which were open which I don't think you can do any more. They used to have a section which said primary roles which meant you were straight through to the AFCO stage and I was looking at medic, engineer all kinds frantically thinking what now? My wife said enough is enough she couldn't bare the unknown any more and that she had seen my local fire station had a sign out saying they were recruiting. I knocked on the door and had a chat and they seemed a good bunch of lads.
I joined my retained fire station in July 2015 and in January 2017 I became a wholetime fire fighter getting through 3000 thousand applicants for twenty jobs. It was the first time they had recruited in ten years.
So life is strange in how it works.
I am writing this three years on as a bit of self counselling really as I received an e-goat email this morning for the first time in years and it made me think about my application.
To any one like me who get's the no letter - chin up and crack on. To any one who gets the yes letter, genuinely WELL DONE!! I know how hard you have worked. To the no's, if its what you truly want then you can retest and take the advice given to you. If I'm honest now - I'm secretly glad I didn't get through as the experiences I've had as a fire fighter and the new friends/family I have made on my watch I wouldn't change for the world.
All the best to you all and if there's ever any more questions I can answer please contact me - no worries.

Nick.
 

busby1971

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Well done fella, looks like every thing worked out for the best.


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