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This is not a competition to see who has suffered the most -_-
I was merely posting my thought.
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Army Recruit found hanged
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This is not a competition to see who has suffered the most -_-
I was merely posting my thought.
laboratoryqueen
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Try not to base your thoughts on what you read in the newspapers. Their sole intention is to sell as many papers as possible and when situations such as this arise, it becomes all too easy for them to link a military suicide with previous ones, giving the impression that it is a cause for concern and increasing. With a very quick search you could easily have found a factual document, not further newspaper articles. Within a 23 year period, 1984 - 2006, there have been 687 suicides within the armed forces. That is a very very small percentage compared to over all suicide rates. The rate is actually on the decrease.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cach...des&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=uk&client=firefox-a
My condolences to the family and friends of the deceased. May he rest in peace.
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grumpyoldb
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Well put, LQ!
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Unfortunately GB, a large percentage of people wouldn't know what signs to look for. Did a course a few years back in suicide first aid called ASIST. Bit of a crap name really but stood for Applied Suicide Intervention Skills Training. Shame I was out of the country for a couple of weeks when an old bombhead pal of mine decided that the rope was the way to go. I might have seen it coming.
Regardless of our personal thoughts on this and whether we feel we "have suffered" or not, the fact is this young recruit (29 is young to me) took his life for a reason we will never ever know. Quoting stats and news stories from the gutter press don't help, particulary with the non service personnel who read this site and feel they may wish to join up. We don't have a high incidence of suicide compared to civvy street, its just that when a Soldier/Sailor/Airman ends his life, the Journo's love to make it a big story quoting the "bullying/combat stress/terrible life we lead" aspect. My thoughts are with the family at this time.
My thoughts on suicides in training is that you may find that a minority of personnel actually join the forces with ongoing personal issues which aren't detected on joining, which don't go away as the individual may have hoped, and are only exaggerated by the pressure of the training environment. Tragic.
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Top Gun
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very good point
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ICATQ
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Whilst not wishing to detract from the tragedy, what annoys me is the association with Deepcut. The lad was at Pirbright, which is NEAR Deepcut, well, yeah but its also near Keogh, but as the medics dont have a bad rep I suppose any link to somewhere with a contraversial history and suicide is more likely sell papers.
Journos = to$$ers
Journos = to$$ers
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ICATQ
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The training staff at Halton (an elsewhere presumuably) spend alot of time interviewing new recruits to establish their backgrounds. The recruit is encouraged to discuss any issues they have, and most are honest and frank in their disclosures which is a huge benefit to both them and the RAF.
If this process is in place with the Army training regime, you still cant get anyone to disclose anything they are unwilling to. Having had peripheral dealings with suicides in the RAF and Joint environment unless they leave a note, we are not going to know for sure.