Does Duty Stacker Exsist anymore?

[Ramp Rat 9]

I have just been called out about 3 hours ago to load a wagon and get some stuff out of a pshg. All was good until a C/T in Eng Ops asked me to go into a hanger to get some DLF kit. But as far as I'm aware were not allowed to go into other supply as they are controlled by Civi street "contracts by the likes of BAe etc"
We have to call out the civi's for quite a bit of dosh, lucky the techie was able to get in and find the kit.

The problem with DLF kit is we can't see it on USAS "MJDI" what was wrong with the way we used to do it, by holding all the kit on USAS in ESG, Tech etc..


If it works why change it........

 

[snowball1]

Thats the future of the BAE airforce!

 

[RAF Bird]

I have just been called out about 3 hours ago to load a wagon and get some stuff out of a pshg. All was good until a C/T in Eng Ops asked me to go into a hanger to get some DLF kit. But as far as I'm aware were not allowed to go into other supply as they are controlled by Civi street "contracts by the likes of BAe etc"
We have to call out the civi's for quite a bit of dosh, lucky the techie was able to get in and find the kit.

The problem with DLF kit is we can't see it on USAS "MJDI" what was wrong with the way we used to do it, by holding all the kit on USAS in ESG, Tech etc..


If it works why change it........

Ah but that my friend is where you are wrong. It wasn't working. All too often we would put in demands for 'c' stores to find we had none on unit and they would come from an external solution, that (combined with I'm sure lots of other factors) made a good argument for the requirement for DLF (direct line feed)

It actually works very well at our unit and saves lots of time putting in 'c' stores demand, receipting them all onto unit and holding them all in PSG/warehouse.

There is the occasion where we need to locate them to send them onto someone else who requires them but to be honest as they are all stored in locat as per their part number they are easy to find.

 

[RAF Bird]

Oh sorry and as for the not having visual on MJDI, well if on the DLF master list for your unit they have them then there should always be a locat and there should always be stock in the locat which is the whole point of DLF.

 

[Ramp Rat 9]

It was in your place where we had to get the kit from ;-) a techie from XXX went to get them.
So really DLF is only for C-stores then, so what happens about creating consumtion do the BAe reps have to order the same way we used to on USAS??
There still has to be a stk replen from some where so why weren't we ordering above and beyond, or were the contractors holding back so they could get their mitts on a contract for civi's to work here

 

[Ramp Rat 9]

That should have been a job for someone, the EVF's need to be setup right so you never run out.
But as you said the solution went off camp quite alot, which showed us that stk wasn't there when we needed it.
Was there a problem with the contractor not being able to get the kit to us quickly enough?

 

[RAF Bird]

Not from my place my friend as I work in a big green building with no windows.

Right the BAe reps come into each section weekly and go through the little boxes re-filling where is needed. The consumption is created mostly like this: It is taken from the consumtion on MJDI when we have had the item on unit before it becomes DLF or another instance is, supplier inputs demand and it comes up as NIR. We then action man dmd which goes to IPT with a 2 year consumption annotated to man dmd proforma. They purchase said item and it is made live on MJDI. Then the nice DLF lady (I will mention no names) somehow comes across all these 'c' stores that can be potentially DLF sets up some sort of contact and uses the consumtion we have originally put on the man dmd. Item then becomes DLF and us lovely suppliers no longer have to worry about demanding said item ever again. And yes as far as I know it is only 'c' stores that are DLF although it may well change if we ever get spares for this bloody A/C.

Now that may all not be 100% completely right but it is the way I understand it to be, but hope it helps anyway.

Sorry am not Vital so did not click on to your location at first, however the nice 4 months I have just had taught me enought to now realise where you are.

 

[Ramp Rat 9]

Have you moved then, so do work in a section that starts with I and ends with C

 

[Stax]

Ramp Rat. See me tomorrow and I'll explain EXACTLY how DLF works!

 

[forpuckssake]

Ooh STAX, you're so masterful DT_Xtremez_30:

How is life at that pile of poo?

 

[Welove31]

Ramp Rat's only moaning cos his nice cushy shift pattern got changed by Stax!! Got 2 do some work now!!

 

[RAF Bird]

Ramp Rat. See me tomorrow and I'll explain EXACTLY how DLF works!

Well thank god someone knows exactly how it works. I thought it was another bodge job as per everything else that civies get involved in...... DT_Xtremez_15:

Only joking, calm down.....

 

[Ramp Rat 9]

Not bothered about the shift pattern, it's my first week back on it. And guess what i've been called out yet again tonight. God dam- was a nice 40 mile drive

 

[Ramp Rat 9]

Ramp Rat. See me tomorrow and I'll explain EXACTLY how DLF works!

Do I need my Beret and cheque book. lol

 

[Stax]

DLF is nought to do with the blue suits. WESCO's of Huddersfield have a rep on site who goes around and checks the Cambans for stocks. Each item is broken down into monthly requirements, then 2 months worth are held in drawers, month 1 and month 2, one above the other. When the drawer for month 1 is empty, the techie pulls a little divider and the next batch drops in to the bottom drawer. Then the WESCO man "bleeps" the bar code on the front of the empty drawer and a little man comes around and refills it. We don't look at EVF's, thats the job of WESCO, if the techies use the stock up too quickly, WESCO will increase the qty in each bag. We don't have visibility on MJDI as each "area" has its Camban. So each team in the hangar has a Camban with their requirements. If anyone robs from one "area" to another WESCO need to know so that they don't assume the team needs an increase in stock. Its a good system as the company take the risk if their is no stock at their depot. If they need to fill contractural obligations then they have to pay out their money IOT get stocks in, something the MOD can't do because of NAO restrictions on public money and getting VFM.

Here endeth the lesson.

How do I know this, I was involved with the contract (as an opponent) 3 years ago when it all started.

 

[Ramp Rat 9]

DLF is nought to do with the blue suits. WESCO's of Huddersfield have a rep on site who goes around and checks the Cambans for stocks. Each item is broken down into monthly requirements, then 2 months worth are held in drawers, month 1 and month 2, one above the other. When the drawer for month 1 is empty, the techie pulls a little divider and the next batch drops in to the bottom drawer. Then the WESCO man "bleeps" the bar code on the front of the empty drawer and a little man comes around and refills it. We don't look at EVF's, thats the job of WESCO, if the techies use the stock up too quickly, WESCO will increase the qty in each bag. We don't have visibility on MJDI as each "area" has its Camban. So each team in the hangar has a Camban with their requirements. If anyone robs from one "area" to another WESCO need to know so that they don't assume the team needs an increase in stock. Its a good system as the company take the risk if their is no stock at their depot. If they need to fill contractural obligations then they have to pay out their money IOT get stocks in, something the MOD can't do because of NAO restrictions on public money and getting VFM.

Here endeth the lesson.

How do I know this, I was involved with the contract (as an opponent) 3 years ago when it all started.

Your the god

 

[Robby]

Sounds really good, until somebody is D state for a widget - which is sat in a bin on the hanger floor 200 yards away - but nobody can 'see' it.
Surely this is just the old C store bins again and all the 'problems' LEAN tried to fix!

How many time sdid we move the Tornado C stores on and then 'off charge' as the next bit of direction comes from the Ivory towers!

Off Topic It also explains why Wyton is a ghost town now! Off Topic

 

[RAF Bird]

Sounds really good, until somebody is D state for a widget - which is sat in a bin on the hanger floor 200 yards away - but nobody can 'see' it.
Surely this is just the old C store bins again and all the 'problems' LEAN tried to fix!

How many time sdid we move the Tornado C stores on and then 'off charge' as the next bit of direction comes from the Ivory towers!

Off Topic It also explains why Wyton is a ghost town now! Off Topic

But we can 'see it' there is a master DLF list on our Connet which can be accessed by all, not just the mighty supply. Every item that is DLF should always have stock as explained properly by Stax. If it doesn't then it comes down to BAe to sort the problem and also fund it.

We were also clever enought to have all demands interupted with a nice little message telling us it is DLF so we don't input ANY demands for them.

 

[RAF Bird]

Oh btw when I say we can see them obviously we don't know quantities but we know loacats and all locats should have stock in.

 

[The Helpful Stacker]

we don't know quantities but we know loacats and all locats should have stock in.

Bless. I remember when I was that optimistic.

Give it a few more years and you'll start to realise locats are usually just empty, dusty spaces or the hiding place of that part you were looking for last week.

DT_Xtremez_34: