Possible VC????

[Disillusioned]

A herioc young man of epic proportions, not only for sticking a full magazine into a terrorist but for growing one of the most respectable set of lamb chops I've seen in a long time.

 

[Wing boy]

Agree with you on that one he certainly does deserve the VC. The VC will only be awarded for actions in time of war. "Valour in the face of the enemy" was on the original citations and in the gazette report. The fact remains that the VC has never been awarded outside of an official(whatever that means) war zone.The only VCs to be awarded when the U.K. weren't at war were to 4 Australians during the Vietnam war.

Really? then what about the 2 during the Falklands "crisis" IIRC it was never a war as no-one ever declared war.

 

[Fablon biff chit]

Definatley deserves a decoration, not sure about the VC in my opinion.

 

[wgaf]

Really? then what about the 2 during the Falklands "crisis" IIRC it was never a war as no-one ever declared war.

Off Topic Done some digging and we were at war in the Falklands. Also found out that what is going on in Afghanistan is classed as an International war, wether this ties in woth the war on terror I'm not sure. Still trying to get a complete definition of what is classed as a war.Off Topic

 

[True Blue Jack]

I always thought that we had to be in a declared state of war for the VC to be awarded. At least that was the reason given for EOD guys in N. Ireland never getting anything higher than the GC.

Since Bryan Budd was awarded a VC for actions in Afghanistan just last August, it must be admissible. I think "valour in the face of the enemy" is what makes him eligible.

Good luck to him, we need some good news stories. Mind you, I have to wonder whether putting 13 rounds into the bloke counts as "use no more force than is necessary" DT_Xtremez_35:

 

[the lovetoad]

War or not. This guy had B@lls the size of London. A Victoria Cross must be considered.DT_Xtremez_28:

 

[Dave-exfairy]

Mind you, I have to wonder whether putting 13 rounds into the bloke counts as "use no more force than is necessary" DT_Xtremez_35:

It matters not, the threat had to be neutralised. What was the terrorist armed with? An AK47?? And he shot him with his 9mm pistol? Seems fair enough to me.

 

[Dave-exfairy]

VC Heroes honoured

VC Heroes honoured

VC Heroes
Just one thing though, why isn't this being televised???? Silly me, it isn't cool enough.

 

[Blind_beggar]

His actions in retieving his mate from a burning vehicle loaded with explosives under heavy enemy fire means only one award in my eyes and it isn't the MC.

Enough from me on the subject.

I thought the plastic explosives we use didn't detonate in a fire?

 

[Fablon biff chit]

But in the heat of the moment, would you remember that?

 

[fergo]

No debate, a very brave selfless man. Same age as me, scary!
Unbelievably selfles, hope his CO gets writing soon.

 

[Comms_Lad]

I thought the plastic explosives we use didn't detonate in a fire?

Yup and there is nothing wrong with your kit, there are no shortages and no your weapon was not made by the lowest bidder!!!

Would you light a brick of PE and stand next to it I wouldnt

DT_Xtremez_14:

 

[Chuffybum]

Unbelievable bravery, well done that man. I just can't imagine what must have been going through his mind after it was all over. Hope his friend recovers well and is looked after properly when he gets back to this country.

 

[gemarriott]

The award does not have to be endorsed by the head of the respective branch. It used to have to be endorsed by the head of the army but this was stopped soemtime in the first half of the 20th century.
All this is going of thread however, L/Cpl Ruecker certainly deserves the ultimate accolade, but as has been said "officialy" we're not at war in Afghanistan, and the VC can only be awarded in times of war, crap rule but there you go.

how did Jones and McCarthy? get theirs in the Falklands then since that was officially only a conflict and not a war? was never declared as a war on some vague commercial reason and someting to do with pensions and compensation to war widows I believe. Bugger the niceties and give the lad the gong he deserves I say!

 

[Prudhoe]

http://defenceintranet.diiweb.r.mil...talities/CorporalRodneyWilsonKilledInIraq.htm

Seems this chap was exceptionally brave too.

 

[mad_mo]

http://defenceintranet.diiweb.r.mil...talities/CorporalRodneyWilsonKilledInIraq.htm

Seems this chap was exceptionally brave too.

Ermmm your posting an Intranet link!!!!!

Which will not work for obvious resaons.

 

[Prudhoe]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6734835.stm

fair point, try this one

 

[cockneyrock]

Undoubtably a brave individual. Personnaly think that the VC would be a bit much given the reason behind awards of said medals in the past. However, MC or more likely and hopefully the CGC (CGC is the higher award) should be awarded.

Conspicuous Gallantry Cross

 

[Chrispy]

Blair and Bush may not want too many VC's given out but the MOD I think are wanting as much good publicity for the Armed Forces as possible, reading what he did I have no doubts that top brass will award the VC, no arguments here that he deserves it. Good job DT_Xtremez_30: